ᐅ Finalizing the floor plan for a 130 m² bungalow designed for 4 people
Created on: 23 Jul 2019 08:00
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micric3
Hello,
we have finalized the floor plan for our project and tried to incorporate feedback/criticism from the previous thread. A new thread was also necessary to include relevant information in the initial post.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1000 m² (10,764 sq ft)
External dimensions of the house: 16 m x 9.5 m (52.5 ft x 31.2 ft) (these were specified by the construction company to stay as close as possible to the budget)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 0
Number of floors: Bungalow
Roof type: Hip roof, gable roof, or shed roof
Orientation: Entrance on the east, living room facing west, dining room facing southwest
Additional requirements: Must blend in with the existing building
Utility connections: Electricity and wastewater/water connections come from the driveway on the west side
Client requirements
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 x 40 years, 2 x 3 years)
Office: In the outbuilding
Guests per year: Maximum 2
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern architectural style: Either
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Probably U-shaped kitchen, open to alternatives
Number of dining seats: Possibly 2–4 casual spots in the kitchen; otherwise 6–8 in the dining room
Fireplace: Yes, as a room divider between dining and living room
Garage, carport: On the driveway
House design
Who designed it:
- Based on the bungalow 131 floor plan from Town & Country
- Design planned independently using RoomSketcher
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Room layout (size)
- Room divider between kitchen, dining room, and living room (L-shape)
- No hallway
- Open area as a transition space between kitchen and living room
Cost estimate from architect/planner: 215,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 250,000
Preferred heating system: Air-to-water heat pump (either Vaillant aroSplit or Vaillant FlexoCompact)
Why is the design as it is now?
- Dissatisfaction with the designs created in the old thread
Link to original thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Bungalow-Grundriss-16x9-5m-aussen-in-1000m-mit-Altbestand.31485/
we have finalized the floor plan for our project and tried to incorporate feedback/criticism from the previous thread. A new thread was also necessary to include relevant information in the initial post.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1000 m² (10,764 sq ft)
External dimensions of the house: 16 m x 9.5 m (52.5 ft x 31.2 ft) (these were specified by the construction company to stay as close as possible to the budget)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 0
Number of floors: Bungalow
Roof type: Hip roof, gable roof, or shed roof
Orientation: Entrance on the east, living room facing west, dining room facing southwest
Additional requirements: Must blend in with the existing building
Utility connections: Electricity and wastewater/water connections come from the driveway on the west side
Client requirements
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 x 40 years, 2 x 3 years)
Office: In the outbuilding
Guests per year: Maximum 2
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern architectural style: Either
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Probably U-shaped kitchen, open to alternatives
Number of dining seats: Possibly 2–4 casual spots in the kitchen; otherwise 6–8 in the dining room
Fireplace: Yes, as a room divider between dining and living room
Garage, carport: On the driveway
House design
Who designed it:
- Based on the bungalow 131 floor plan from Town & Country
- Design planned independently using RoomSketcher
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Room layout (size)
- Room divider between kitchen, dining room, and living room (L-shape)
- No hallway
- Open area as a transition space between kitchen and living room
Cost estimate from architect/planner: 215,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 250,000
Preferred heating system: Air-to-water heat pump (either Vaillant aroSplit or Vaillant FlexoCompact)
Why is the design as it is now?
- Dissatisfaction with the designs created in the old thread
Link to original thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Bungalow-Grundriss-16x9-5m-aussen-in-1000m-mit-Altbestand.31485/
Thorsten78 schrieb:
@haydee: I’m relatively new here and unfortunately can’t send you a private message. I read in an older thread that you built a house with “Wir Leben Haus.” I’m very interested to hear about your experience with this company. It would be great to hear from you. Thanks You’ve got mailTry asking @Anitra. She is the other user who is currently building with the company
@j.bautsch: That might be true, especially when you can design your house from scratch.
For the kitchen, we found a compact compromise (my wife wanted a closed kitchen) that is ergonomic and allows for optimal workflows. See Attachment 1.
If, over the years, my wife prefers an open kitchen with an island, we will remove the wall to the living room.
@ypg: I have copied all the existing furniture 1:1 and even added some extra space in places. There probably won’t be a fireplace, more likely a wood-burning stove. But where to put it?
I’m also looking for advice on the placement and size of the windows in the living room.
For the kitchen, we found a compact compromise (my wife wanted a closed kitchen) that is ergonomic and allows for optimal workflows. See Attachment 1.
If, over the years, my wife prefers an open kitchen with an island, we will remove the wall to the living room.
@ypg: I have copied all the existing furniture 1:1 and even added some extra space in places. There probably won’t be a fireplace, more likely a wood-burning stove. But where to put it?
I’m also looking for advice on the placement and size of the windows in the living room.
micric3 schrieb:
If my wife ever wants an open kitchen with an island in the future, we will remove the wall to the living room.If this option is likely to become relevant later, make sure to discuss it during the building planning stage and with the structural engineer.
Good gracious, this is only getting worse!
In the same post where you share an excerpt from the kitchen planning brochure, you also post a kitchen floor plan where you constantly bump your hip on every path at the kitchen island corner. I do find it quite agreeable that there is no TV. Instead, watching the exercise bike thing is at least "something different"—however, those machines are too closely placed to actually use them. The guests apparently are significantly broader than the house residents (?)—or, what I think is more likely, you simply don’t care that even simple things like toilet symbols in the floor plan are useless as indicators of the actual space needed. Details like a bathroom on an exterior wall with no natural light go completely unnoticed. Sometimes walls seem to exist just to argue against—our dog’s expression right now says: this would be pointless :-(
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
In the same post where you share an excerpt from the kitchen planning brochure, you also post a kitchen floor plan where you constantly bump your hip on every path at the kitchen island corner. I do find it quite agreeable that there is no TV. Instead, watching the exercise bike thing is at least "something different"—however, those machines are too closely placed to actually use them. The guests apparently are significantly broader than the house residents (?)—or, what I think is more likely, you simply don’t care that even simple things like toilet symbols in the floor plan are useless as indicators of the actual space needed. Details like a bathroom on an exterior wall with no natural light go completely unnoticed. Sometimes walls seem to exist just to argue against—our dog’s expression right now says: this would be pointless :-(
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
dab_dab schrieb:
If this option should actually become relevant in the future, discuss it during the building planning phase and with the structural engineer.As I understand it, there are no load-bearing walls in a bungalow if the roof uses a truss construction. I have noted it nonetheless.
@11ant: take it easy
The kitchen reference was meant for j.bautsch. My point was to have a minimum dimension for the kitchen even without planning the kitchen in advance. These are hypothetical scenarios. Whoever planned the kitchen before the floor plan, let them cast the first stone.
How wide are you that you’re bumping into the edge of the kitchen? I see no obstruction. I wonder how we have managed to move into our kitchens unscathed until now...
The TV is, of course, mounted on the wall between the two windows on the east side. Feel free to complain to Roomsketcher if judging the floor plans is difficult for you due to missing items in the 2D layout.
The cross-trainers are placed there because they currently stand in our living room, and I have drawn everything accurately to get a sense of the size. If you leave that out, there will only be “beef” here in the forum.
I don’t understand the rest of your comment, especially since the recently posted floor plan is already available here in several versions, so why the outcry instead of constructive support?
The kitchen reference was meant for j.bautsch. My point was to have a minimum dimension for the kitchen even without planning the kitchen in advance. These are hypothetical scenarios. Whoever planned the kitchen before the floor plan, let them cast the first stone.
How wide are you that you’re bumping into the edge of the kitchen? I see no obstruction. I wonder how we have managed to move into our kitchens unscathed until now...
The TV is, of course, mounted on the wall between the two windows on the east side. Feel free to complain to Roomsketcher if judging the floor plans is difficult for you due to missing items in the 2D layout.
The cross-trainers are placed there because they currently stand in our living room, and I have drawn everything accurately to get a sense of the size. If you leave that out, there will only be “beef” here in the forum.
I don’t understand the rest of your comment, especially since the recently posted floor plan is already available here in several versions, so why the outcry instead of constructive support?
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