ᐅ Single-family house ~150 sqm for 5 people

Created on: 22 Jul 2019 09:29
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Sparfuchs77
Hello House Building Forum

I am new here, and we are currently planning our house with an architect. There are currently 4 of us, but we plan to have a 5th. Therefore, the house will include 3 children's bedrooms.

Here is the questionnaire:

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1250 sqm (13455 sq ft) on 25m x 50m (82 ft x 164 ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: not sure at the moment
Edge development: allowed but I want to avoid it
Number of parking spaces: double carport + 2 cars in front

Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: classic single-family home
Orientation: see drawing

Owners’ Requirements
Open floor plan on the ground floor, 4 bedrooms on the upper floor, attic with enough space for storage and a hobby area

House Design
Who created the design:
- Architect

What do you like most? Why?
Ground floor: open kitchen and living room. Office accessible from the living room. Direct access to the terrace.
Upper floor: accommodate 3 children’s bedrooms, bedroom with walk-in closet area. The large dormer. The stairs to the attic, where the hobby room will be located.

What do you dislike? Why?
Basically only the staircase to the upper floor. I am a bit bothered by having to walk “around the corner” when coming up. I am looking for ideas to improve this. Or is this concern unfounded?

Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Not determined yet.

Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings:
350,000 Euro

Preferred heating system:
Gas boiler, solar thermal, and underfloor heating

If you have to give up something, which details or extensions can you do without:
We have already eliminated everything we could possibly do without.

Why is the design the way it is? For example:
We went to the architect with our preferred design. He used our floor plan as a basis and created a floor plan that we like even better. Only the staircase layout is not yet 100% satisfactory for me.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
As mentioned, the staircase to the upper floor is my biggest concern. I hope to get some ideas on how to improve it and maybe some feedback on the rest.



Ground floor plan: kitchen/dining/living area, hallway, office, utility room, bathroom, fireplace in the living room.


Upper floor plan with master bedroom, three children’s rooms, bathroom, landing, and storage room.


South is “up” on the drawings



If more information is needed, I am happy to provide it.

Best regards
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ypg
23 Jul 2019 14:31
Sparfuchs_:P schrieb:

In the end, swapping the kitchen and living room is just a matter of personal preference.

No, please read the reasons behind all the recommendations to swap them. The swap is simply an easy way to fix a major issue, namely the poor location of the living room.
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Sparfuchs77
23 Jul 2019 15:14
ypg schrieb:

No, read the explanations for all the recommendations regarding the swap. The swap is just a simple way to fix a major flaw here, namely the poor location of the living room.



I understand the arguments. I’ve also already revised the floor plans (during my lunch break using Excel). However, I want to post them only after I’ve discussed them with my wife and we agree. Then I will recreate the floor plan using Sweet Home and share it here. I don’t want to present a rough Excel draft for discussion. For now, here’s some information:

In the new floor plan:
- I swapped the living room and kitchen
- I placed the extension in the center, including the dining area
- The staircases are finally aligned on top of each other
- The upstairs hallway is straight at last
- The knee wall is planned at 115–130cm (45–51 inches)
- Because of the higher knee wall, the dormer windows are unnecessary and the roof should be (significantly?) cheaper
- Due to the knee wall, the attic is larger (hobby room *heh heh heh*)
- The stair slants in the utility room and bedroom have disappeared

I adopted a few ideas from @kaho674, but kept some parts of the old floor plan.

I already like the floor plan much better. I still need to present it to my wife—feedback is coming this evening.

I’d like to sincerely thank you all again. You have already helped us a lot!
kaho67423 Jul 2019 15:42
Sparfuchs_ schrieb:

- the knee wall makes the attic bigger (hobby room *HeHeHe*)
What kind of hobby actually requires an entire separate room?
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Sparfuchs77
23 Jul 2019 16:30
kaho674 schrieb:

What kind of hobby actually requires its own room?
It’s just going to be a bit of a mancave. A small workshop area to tinker with my laptop / PC / water cooling, soldering, etc., space for my tube TV and retro games, a small PC corner (my wife doesn’t want the 34-inch (86 cm) monitor in the office ^^), and a sofa.

Who knows what hobbies I’ll have later on. If I don’t need the room anymore, it will become a chill area for the kids (sorry, teenagers ^^) or storage.
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haydee
23 Jul 2019 16:33
You will then have a new hobby: house and garden.
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ypg
23 Jul 2019 17:05
Sparfuchs_ schrieb:

It’s only going to be a small man cave.

That won’t happen anymore