Hello everyone,
We are about to purchase a plot of land. The plot is being divided from an existing property with a house on it. It is located in an old neighborhood (not a new development area).
All utilities (gas, electricity, water, etc.) are available at the street at the property boundary but not on the plot itself.
Is the plot considered fully developed / serviced in this case or not? I have read somewhere that the utility connections (stub connections) need to be located on the plot.
Will it be significantly more expensive for us if these stub connections are missing?
We are about to purchase a plot of land. The plot is being divided from an existing property with a house on it. It is located in an old neighborhood (not a new development area).
All utilities (gas, electricity, water, etc.) are available at the street at the property boundary but not on the plot itself.
Is the plot considered fully developed / serviced in this case or not? I have read somewhere that the utility connections (stub connections) need to be located on the plot.
Will it be significantly more expensive for us if these stub connections are missing?
Mottenhausen schrieb:
Well, it all adds up like that, and in the end, everything gets more expensive because the initial price quotes were, of course, all net prices, "since as a builder that should be obvious" (sic!). :-( OT: This gross/net thing annoys me endlessly as well. Sure, you eventually understand it, but sorry, as an end consumer you have always been used to seeing gross prices. I’m already reluctant just thinking about having to ask whether the price is net or gross.
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neutronbx3 Jul 2019 11:42Mottenhausen schrieb:
Of course, it will be more expensive since additional handover shafts or shut-off valves may need to be installed, the road will have to be opened and then repaved, and the route is simply longer. Utility connections are always somewhat unique, so the only option is to contact the local service providers: ask about prices and services offered (some include excavation work, others don’t, some only cover up to around 12m (39 feet), etc.). This way, you’ll know what extra excavation and pipe installation you will need, which you can then commission, for example, through your shell builder. This will give you a complete total, which will easily be five figures. All providers charge at least a connection fee of 1000€ (about 1100 USD) plus various preliminary inquiries, permits (building permit / planning permission), and final inspections. Wastewater services often require a tightness test or even a camera inspection. Telecom or cable network operators may require the installation of specialized (and expensive) pull wire conduits. Just rainwater and wastewater handover shafts each cost around 2,000 to 5,000€ (2,200 to 5,500 USD) if needed. Well, these costs add up, and on top of that, everything ends up more expensive because the initial price estimates are always quoted net, “because as a builder, that should be obvious” (sic!). :-( Does the road actually get completely dug up and repaved? That sounds very expensive...
MadameP schrieb:
OT: This gross/net pricing issue annoys me endlessly as well. Sure, eventually you understand it, but honestly, as a final consumer, you’re used to seeing gross prices your whole life. I’m already glad if I remember to ask whether it’s net or gross.Actually, only the final prices may be shown to private customers (the tax can be listed separately, but the total amount must be clearly stated). If you receive a quote where this is not the case, in theory, you only have to pay the price shown. But I’m sure hardly anyone actually does that.neutronbx schrieb:
Is the road really completely dug up and repaved? That sounds very expensive... Yes, recently pipes for wastewater and stormwater were installed on my property, and gas was connected directly. Two weeks of full road closure (the neighbors wanted to lynch my site manager...) were announced on short notice. The road was dug up, but fortunately everything was finished after one week. What does it cost? Gas about €2200, the price list was clear, but a "construction cost surcharge" or something similar was added on top. For wastewater, I still have no idea what it might cost, as there was never an offer... The inspection chambers for sewage and stormwater together were about €4000.
I was also really annoyed about water and electricity, which were supposedly already on the property. I had called in advance to ask about costs, and was told no, setting the meters is free... nothing else would be charged. Now both each charged about €1000 for extending the lines into the house, and I even had to arrange the trench digging myself.
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