Hello,
we have the following issue with our new build: in the guest WC shower on the ground floor, a vertical pipe shaft is planned to carry wastewater from the upper floor downwards. The pipe shaft is located right near the entrance, and we would prefer not to have it in that spot.
Here are the options I see:
A) One suggestion from the plumbing company was to move the pipe shaft next to the toilet, where there is also an opening in the floor to drain the water. However, the pipe would then have to be routed from the original opening beneath the wall to the new location of the shaft. This could be done either inside the shower or in front of it (see option 1 and 2).
Now I wonder if it makes sense to do it like this and then lower the ceiling so the pipe is hidden? The ceiling height would then be reduced from 2.6 m to about 2.45 m (8 ft 6.5 in to 8 ft). On the plus side, you could integrate spotlights and so on. But what about moisture or water vapor in the cavity?
B) Another alternative I have thought of is to move the pipe shaft to the other wall inside the shower. There you could build a pre-wall construction to house the shaft. The shower size would then be reduced, which is acceptable (see option 3). The question here is whether the wastewater can be routed from the shaft under the shower tray to the original drain...
What do you think?
I look forward to your opinions.
we have the following issue with our new build: in the guest WC shower on the ground floor, a vertical pipe shaft is planned to carry wastewater from the upper floor downwards. The pipe shaft is located right near the entrance, and we would prefer not to have it in that spot.
Here are the options I see:
A) One suggestion from the plumbing company was to move the pipe shaft next to the toilet, where there is also an opening in the floor to drain the water. However, the pipe would then have to be routed from the original opening beneath the wall to the new location of the shaft. This could be done either inside the shower or in front of it (see option 1 and 2).
Now I wonder if it makes sense to do it like this and then lower the ceiling so the pipe is hidden? The ceiling height would then be reduced from 2.6 m to about 2.45 m (8 ft 6.5 in to 8 ft). On the plus side, you could integrate spotlights and so on. But what about moisture or water vapor in the cavity?
B) Another alternative I have thought of is to move the pipe shaft to the other wall inside the shower. There you could build a pre-wall construction to house the shaft. The shower size would then be reduced, which is acceptable (see option 3). The question here is whether the wastewater can be routed from the shaft under the shower tray to the original drain...
What do you think?
I look forward to your opinions.
11ant schrieb:
Oh well. Everyone knows that a shower in the guest bathroom is not the main shower. And everyone is familiar with amateurs – unless you’re one yourself – who don’t automatically consider that a floor opening will be there for a reason related to the space below. This happens “in the best of families.” And this obsession with details “was bound to happen” now that a generation of parents accustomed to prenatal diagnostics are becoming home builders. Back when not all builders knew about each other through internet forums, there was no less botching or shortcutting than today – at least when comparing one housing boom to another. Of course, I will be able to live with it, and eventually it probably won’t bother me or even be noticeable anymore.
I just find it unfortunate because with better communication from the architect, it might have been avoided. I hadn’t expected such a mass production approach where work is botched instead of focusing on reasonable solutions. I would have been willing to pay more for additional meetings with the architect if I had been warned about such issues.
cschiko schrieb:
Of course, this is a matter of personal perception, but honestly, I doubt anyone will really notice that there is a boxed-in section in the corner. I would just leave it as it is. This should have been planned differently from the start, but now I wouldn’t try to adjust it with too much effort, especially if it significantly reduces the shower space.This is probably the best solution. If you force more bends or alterations to reroute the pipe somewhere else, it likely won’t improve the situation. In the end, it probably won’t be noticeable, and it’s only a guest shower that likely won’t be used daily like the main shower.H
hampshire26 Jun 2019 18:42@chrisw81: I’d be just as frustrated with a pipe like that. At the same time, such a pipe setup isn’t a design flaw or poor workmanship in that area, but a cost-efficient solution that many would consider completely acceptable. Complaining now about how anyone could plan something like this, while dismissing your own responsibility to review the plans and ask questions, seems a bit unfair. Of course, as a client, you might overlook something or forget to ask. But that doesn’t mean the others are incompetent. Own your decisions and indecisions like an adult. I would discuss the issue with the builders. Once they know what’s important to you, they will find a solution.
hampshire schrieb:
I would talk to the builders about a solution. Once they know what matters to me, they will find a solution. During the on-site meeting, I will definitely speak to the builders again. Maybe they can offer a good solution.