Hello,
I am currently working on planning our kitchen. Now I am wondering about the brand.
I am torn between Neff and Siemens/Bosch. Neff, because I have only heard good things so far, and Siemens, because two different salespeople have said they are much better than Neff (although both salespeople only offered/wanted to sell Siemens products).
Now I am asking myself, should I stick with Neff, or are Siemens appliances really that good?
What matters most to me:
An induction cooktop with plenty of space and no frustrating touch controls...
A stove that at least meets the standard, meaning separate controls for top and bottom heat. Convection. Additionally, I want one that actually has pyrolytic self-cleaning, not just mentioned in the manual, and a built-in thermometer would be nice. Steam would be good, although I have read that it hardly works.
The extractor hood must be recirculating.
Refrigerator with plenty of space for vegetables and drinks.
Separate freezer or chest freezer.
What are your experiences?
I am currently working on planning our kitchen. Now I am wondering about the brand.
I am torn between Neff and Siemens/Bosch. Neff, because I have only heard good things so far, and Siemens, because two different salespeople have said they are much better than Neff (although both salespeople only offered/wanted to sell Siemens products).
Now I am asking myself, should I stick with Neff, or are Siemens appliances really that good?
What matters most to me:
An induction cooktop with plenty of space and no frustrating touch controls...
A stove that at least meets the standard, meaning separate controls for top and bottom heat. Convection. Additionally, I want one that actually has pyrolytic self-cleaning, not just mentioned in the manual, and a built-in thermometer would be nice. Steam would be good, although I have read that it hardly works.
The extractor hood must be recirculating.
Refrigerator with plenty of space for vegetables and drinks.
Separate freezer or chest freezer.
What are your experiences?
Der Da schrieb:
I’m torn between Neff and Siemens/Bosch. Neff, because I’ve only heard good things so far, and Siemens because two different salespeople have told me they are much better than Neff (although both salespeople only carried/sold Siemens products). The saleswoman at Höffner recently pointed out to us that they all come from the same company.
See Wikipedia: "In addition to the main brands Bosch and Siemens, they also distribute a number of specialty brands: Gaggenau, Neff, Thermador, Constructa, Viva, Ufesa, and Junker."
Looking at the dishwasher, it’s quite clear that Bosch/Siemens/Neff and others have the exact same layout.
Whether slight technical differences are noticeable is something everyone has to decide for themselves.
Der Da schrieb:
What really matters to me:
An induction cooktop with plenty of space and no annoying touch sensors... Are there still models with knobs? : )
A 90 cm (35 inch) stove is a great size. Do you have the space for it?
Apparently, induction is not as expensive as it used to be. Are there quality differences?
Der Da schrieb:
An oven that at least meets the standard: separate control for top and bottom heat, convection. Additionally, I want one that actually features pyrolytic self-cleaning, not just in the manual, and a built-in thermometer for low temperatures would be nice. Steam would be good, although I have read that it hardly works. I would rely on an external thermometer, for example an Outdoorchef Gourmetcheck (which I use for BBQ). The oven’s built-in thermometer will never show the correct temperature, especially not the temperature of the food inside.
Thank you, we have now decided on Siemens (which is basically the same as Bosch). The choice was mainly due to the kitchen showroom and their special conditions. From Neff, we would have only considered the induction cooktop at most. However, we are currently cooking with gas.
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Bauexperte23 May 2012 19:24Hello,
I’m probably "old-fashioned" ... but for me, having everything from one house brand is a "no go." Oven from Bauknecht (Bauknecht knows what women want ), microwave from Siemens, extractor hood from Kolbe, and refrigerator from LG. Since everything is stainless steel, the mix of brands is not noticeable at all.
Kind regards
Der Da schrieb:
Thanks, we have now decided on Siemens (which is basically the same as Bosch). But the main reason was the kitchen studio and their special conditions. If anything, we would have only chosen the induction cooktop from Neff. We are currently cooking with gas.
I’m probably "old-fashioned" ... but for me, having everything from one house brand is a "no go." Oven from Bauknecht (Bauknecht knows what women want ), microwave from Siemens, extractor hood from Kolbe, and refrigerator from LG. Since everything is stainless steel, the mix of brands is not noticeable at all.
Kind regards
Hehe, well, gas stoves are hard to find in Germany, and I’m glad that the Siemens stove meets our requirements and, at €1300 (about $1400), isn’t as expensive as, for example, the dream Gaggenau oven (€3000 / about $3200). The oven should simply be able to bake, the dishwasher should clean, and it shouldn’t bother me while doing so. We had special requirements for the refrigerator, which were only met by an AEG model. The Siemens one would have been €1000 (about $1100) more expensive.
I don’t really care about the brand as everything is fully integrated anyway.
Only for the oven did I absolutely want rotary knobs… those "touch-control" systems drive me crazy.
I don’t really care about the brand as everything is fully integrated anyway.
Only for the oven did I absolutely want rotary knobs… those "touch-control" systems drive me crazy.
B
Bauexperte25 May 2012 09:42Hello,
The eternal kitchen topic. I used to cook with gas a long time ago when I was still on my own => we didn’t want latchkey kids. But to keep the food temperature somewhat consistent, a gas stove is hardly suitable; I ended up using the old-fashioned method of wrapping the food in newspaper and so on.
At some point, I got fed up and bought my first electric stove. That was about 25 years ago, and I wouldn’t change it for anything in the world. The first stove had the “disadvantage” of taking longer to heat up – nowadays it’s just as fast as gas. And what I always liked is that I can turn it off about 10 minutes earlier and the food continues cooking “for free.” Sure, you can’t let the flame briefly skip like with gas – but that’s what good old matches are for
Also old-fashioned; I like that
Kind regards
Der Da schrieb:
Gas stoves are hard to find in Germany
The eternal kitchen topic. I used to cook with gas a long time ago when I was still on my own => we didn’t want latchkey kids. But to keep the food temperature somewhat consistent, a gas stove is hardly suitable; I ended up using the old-fashioned method of wrapping the food in newspaper and so on.
At some point, I got fed up and bought my first electric stove. That was about 25 years ago, and I wouldn’t change it for anything in the world. The first stove had the “disadvantage” of taking longer to heat up – nowadays it’s just as fast as gas. And what I always liked is that I can turn it off about 10 minutes earlier and the food continues cooking “for free.” Sure, you can’t let the flame briefly skip like with gas – but that’s what good old matches are for
Der Da schrieb:
I just wanted rotary knobs on the oven... these “touch-screen controls” drive me crazy.
Also old-fashioned; I like that
Kind regards
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