ᐅ Lift systems in the kitchen

Created on: 7 Jun 2019 10:54
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Tossi
Hello community,
we are currently planning our kitchen and find the lift system from Ninka called Qanto very interesting.
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Does anyone have this system installed and can provide feedback on whether this investment is worthwhile?

It would also be interesting to know if there are other systems available or DIY setups, possibly using TV lifts?
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hampshire
7 Jun 2019 22:27
@11ant Your assumption is completely correct; I do not moderate forums, but only manage interactions with people in direct contact. Alarm bells or not – does the presumption of innocence not apply online? Isn’t the presumption of innocence a fundamental principle here?

If a moderator suspected something, wouldn’t they address it privately with the "suspect" rather than publicly?
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guckuck2
7 Jun 2019 22:34
hampshire schrieb:

Isn’t there the principle of the presumption of innocence here?

In the age of online influence, skepticism is more than justified.
The associated online tribunal is correspondingly relentless.
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hampshire
7 Jun 2019 22:37
guckuck2 schrieb:

In the age of online influence, skepticism is more than justified.
Skepticism is definitely appropriate and important. However, it is a product of our current legal protections and personal freedoms that skepticism does not immediately turn into accusations. That would be a step backward for society.
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guckuck2
7 Jun 2019 22:49
That’s right, normally such content is removed at the first sign of suspicion.

There is no time for legal certainty. The Google crawler only takes seconds to minutes to rank a website higher because a product name and company suddenly appear everywhere, or a YouTube video goes viral.

For the person behind it, that means cold hard cash.
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hampshire
7 Jun 2019 23:06
I have several Google certifications and have already worked directly with this company – so I am not completely inexperienced regarding the volatile indexing and ranking mechanisms.

@guckuck2 "No time for legal certainty" is extremely concerning when you think it through carefully. Especially when things need to move quickly, a clear value priority is helpful.

Deleting a post in a publicly accessible but still privately operated forum is an acceptable measure – similar to a ban from a property. Public accusations are not a suitable way to prevent unwanted advertising.
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guckuck2
7 Jun 2019 23:14
hampshire schrieb:

Especially when things need to move quickly, having a clear priority of values is helpful.

The priority of values is that external advertising means money, from which both sides must benefit. Otherwise, it’s unfair. Take a look at the imprint. It doesn’t say "Justice Association." Reach is the capital.
hampshire schrieb:

Public accusations are not a means to prevent unwanted advertising.

A moderator—I believe there aren’t many here—cannot see everything. Sometimes a subtle hint can help.