Hello everyone!
I would like to hear your opinions on our long-prepared floor plan, so I’m starting a new thread just before submitting the building permit / planning permission with the current design of our single-family house.
These are the preliminary drafts for the building permit / planning permission, and this is my last chance to review everything and point out any issues.
Basically, everything fits our needs, but before finalizing the detailed planning, there is still some flexibility and the floor plan might be adjusted.
I would be very grateful for your suggestions, ideas, and criticism!
Greetings from Leipzig!
I would like to hear your opinions on our long-prepared floor plan, so I’m starting a new thread just before submitting the building permit / planning permission with the current design of our single-family house.
These are the preliminary drafts for the building permit / planning permission, and this is my last chance to review everything and point out any issues.
Basically, everything fits our needs, but before finalizing the detailed planning, there is still some flexibility and the floor plan might be adjusted.
I would be very grateful for your suggestions, ideas, and criticism!
Greetings from Leipzig!
The furniture is a variable...
If you don’t understand or take criticism directly, then build your house as planned. Some people need to defend everything before they even grasp the point of the response. You are one of them, and that’s fine. This design does not just need a few cosmetic tweaks; something is still fundamentally wrong. Even on page seven, nothing has improved! But I guess you won’t understand that? I assume that a standard floor plan has been altered so much that it has so many flaws it simply no longer works. This has also been pointed out on earlier pages. This lack of understanding gives me the impression that comments are basically unnecessary.
If you don’t understand or take criticism directly, then build your house as planned. Some people need to defend everything before they even grasp the point of the response. You are one of them, and that’s fine. This design does not just need a few cosmetic tweaks; something is still fundamentally wrong. Even on page seven, nothing has improved! But I guess you won’t understand that? I assume that a standard floor plan has been altered so much that it has so many flaws it simply no longer works. This has also been pointed out on earlier pages. This lack of understanding gives me the impression that comments are basically unnecessary.
This is a table that is at least 110 cm deep (43 inches) and 200 cm long (79 inches) and does not fit with:
I would also place the dining/cooking area within the 30 sqm (323 sq ft) space and the sofa in the 20 sqm (215 sq ft) area. The pantry should then be accessible from the hallway. Additionally, the adjustments suggested by Opalau regarding the study and entrance vestibule.
For wardrobes, there are sliding doors... highly recommend the Pax series from Ikea, especially with this furniture arrangement:
The bed is placed in possibly the worst spot in the room. The headboard is directly next to the door and there is no space to the left of the bed, but above the bed there is a large open area.
It’s advisable to consider Opalau’s sketch again:
Place the parents’ bed with the headboard against the wall of the storage room, which keeps the window options at the bottom and left. If the occupants get up at different times, one can get up, choose clothes in the walk-in closet, and head to the bathroom… oh, forgot something? Quickly back into the closet to get it. The partner can continue sleeping undisturbed.
I would also place the dining/cooking area within the 30 sqm (323 sq ft) space and the sofa in the 20 sqm (215 sq ft) area. The pantry should then be accessible from the hallway. Additionally, the adjustments suggested by Opalau regarding the study and entrance vestibule.
ALLuki83 schrieb:
Only partly agree. A continuous wardrobe is out of the question because who wants to struggle through open closets to get to the sleeping area? No matter how tidy you are, open wardrobes look messy.
For wardrobes, there are sliding doors... highly recommend the Pax series from Ikea, especially with this furniture arrangement:
The bed is placed in possibly the worst spot in the room. The headboard is directly next to the door and there is no space to the left of the bed, but above the bed there is a large open area.
It’s advisable to consider Opalau’s sketch again:
Place the parents’ bed with the headboard against the wall of the storage room, which keeps the window options at the bottom and left. If the occupants get up at different times, one can get up, choose clothes in the walk-in closet, and head to the bathroom… oh, forgot something? Quickly back into the closet to get it. The partner can continue sleeping undisturbed.
"The furniture is a variable" probably means "the furniture symbols are just placeholders" (which is flawed, because that way they cannot properly "check" the floor plan – by the way: the symbol next to the dining table is clearly a sliding door). I would be interested in the original floor plan; I boldly assume it worked better before the adjustment.
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Place the passage from the dressing room to the bedroom at the top (close to the entrance door to the sleep/dressing area) so you don’t have to walk through the wardrobes. Similar to my sketch in #15, this also works with the dressing room between the bathroom and bedroom.
Don’t be fooled by attractive pictures – as others have already pointed out: the nice image provided by the fireplace installer unfortunately doesn’t match the reality shown in the plan. There are two possibilities: either you don’t want to see it, or you can’t.
If you don’t want to: you’re doing yourself a disservice by stubbornly holding on to your dream image just because it looks nice. Wake up! Otherwise, any effort here is pointless. Then just build the house that way. Period.
If you can’t: this is not meant negatively – many people lack spatial imagination and can’t mentally translate a 2D plan into a 3D visualization of how it will actually look. I fear you belong to this group. As I said, you are in good company, no reason to be ashamed. The clue for me is that you proudly present the fireplace installer’s 3D designs here, saying: “See, it works, it was furnished according to our ideas.” If you had the ability to mentally convert the 2D plan into 3D, you would immediately see that the two versions have very little to do with each other. They look similar, but they’re not the same. The fireplace installer’s plan shows space for a dining table because the kitchen is missing where it is drawn in the 2D plan. Anyone who has no trouble linking 2D and 3D at first glance can see this. What remains is a leftover kitchen that is far too small for a newly built home for a family of four – a definite no-go.
In this case, please accept the comments from the forum community – people who respond here are usually very skilled in this regard and have a great deal of experience. The fact that almost an outcry has erupted over the plan you call well thought-out and ready for submission should give you pause for thought.
Bedroom with a walk-in closet: nothing else makes sense! And about the open wardrobes – do you really want simple open shelves and hanging rods in the walk-in closet? Honestly? I would never do that – clothes already gather dust over the years in my sliding-door closet, but WITHOUT any doors you will always have dusty clothes.
If not classic wardrobes, then use sliding room dividers with open shelves/hanging space behind them. NEVER WITHOUT PROTECTION IN FRONT! Otherwise, you’ll have to constantly brush off or quickly wash suits and items you don’t wear daily.
If you don’t want to: you’re doing yourself a disservice by stubbornly holding on to your dream image just because it looks nice. Wake up! Otherwise, any effort here is pointless. Then just build the house that way. Period.
If you can’t: this is not meant negatively – many people lack spatial imagination and can’t mentally translate a 2D plan into a 3D visualization of how it will actually look. I fear you belong to this group. As I said, you are in good company, no reason to be ashamed. The clue for me is that you proudly present the fireplace installer’s 3D designs here, saying: “See, it works, it was furnished according to our ideas.” If you had the ability to mentally convert the 2D plan into 3D, you would immediately see that the two versions have very little to do with each other. They look similar, but they’re not the same. The fireplace installer’s plan shows space for a dining table because the kitchen is missing where it is drawn in the 2D plan. Anyone who has no trouble linking 2D and 3D at first glance can see this. What remains is a leftover kitchen that is far too small for a newly built home for a family of four – a definite no-go.
In this case, please accept the comments from the forum community – people who respond here are usually very skilled in this regard and have a great deal of experience. The fact that almost an outcry has erupted over the plan you call well thought-out and ready for submission should give you pause for thought.
Bedroom with a walk-in closet: nothing else makes sense! And about the open wardrobes – do you really want simple open shelves and hanging rods in the walk-in closet? Honestly? I would never do that – clothes already gather dust over the years in my sliding-door closet, but WITHOUT any doors you will always have dusty clothes.
If not classic wardrobes, then use sliding room dividers with open shelves/hanging space behind them. NEVER WITHOUT PROTECTION IN FRONT! Otherwise, you’ll have to constantly brush off or quickly wash suits and items you don’t wear daily.
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