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Created on: 6 May 2019 09:26
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Schneider13
Hello everyone,

I am new here and have a question right away.

But first, a brief introduction.
I am 34 years old, and my wife is 29.
We have a daughter who is 17 months old. We would like to fulfill our dream of owning a home. We live in Düren, district Birkesdorf.

Now to the issue:
I am receiving a plot of land from my father with an area of about 1000 square meters (0.25 acres).
I would like to build there, but according to the development plan and the building authority, only a house with three floors is allowed.

My question is:
Is there possibly a way to build only two floors, or is it simply not permitted? The development plan dates back to 1965.
Because three floors are generally not an option for us.

Thank you in advance for your answers.
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Escroda
6 May 2019 13:57
Schneider13 schrieb:

Is there perhaps a way that I can build only 2 floors, or is that just how it is?

With solid arguments, an exemption under §31 of the Building Code might be possible. However, if you have already received negative signals from the building authority, it will be difficult.
Schneider13 schrieb:

Because 3 floors is actually not an option.

Why not? Apparently, none of the neighbors complied with the dormer ban, so the attic can quite easily become a full floor.
Nordlys schrieb:

Hmm, if that doesn’t mean “up to three floors”…

No, unfortunately not. The circle around the Roman numeral 3 means “mandatory.” A planning expert might argue that the drawing was created before the Building Code Regulations came into effect and that the circle does not appear in the legend of the zoning plan. But that is a weak case...

The property is intended for multi-family residential buildings, which most of the neighborhood has already developed. I recommend selling and looking for a suitable plot. Especially since the number of floors is not the only issue—I’m just mentioning the trees and building lines.
11ant6 May 2019 15:44
Schneider13 schrieb:

Because three floors are actually not an option.
It seems to me that there is plenty of space for parking spots—so I see potential for a deal where a property developer builds a multi-family house, then sells you your "bungalow" from the fully developed lot and markets the four-family house built on it (or that you negotiate a similar arrangement with your bank). My suggestion also works if you prefer the penthouse instead. So, I don’t see a property with more building volume potential than you need as a disadvantage.
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ypg
6 May 2019 19:28
What about a two-generation house, for example with a penthouse apartment on top that extends over a two-story building like a beam?
Or perhaps an office rental in the full attic floor, which would make the evenings quieter.
Maybe a duplex could work? With a parent’s level or office floor upstairs with a roof terrace?
Some build three floors including a basement; you could (what a sin) move your "basement" up to the attic...

I would suggest gathering and weighing such ideas before considering selling the plot. In my opinion, this depends on how you assess the location of the land and whether there are any available plots suitable for single-family homes in your area.
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Schneider13
6 May 2019 20:31
Fairplay-Haus schrieb:

So three floors are definitely planned. I think it also says in the written section that the base area must not protrude more than ... cm above ground level. If that’s the case, THEN YOU ALSO CANNOT CHEAT WITH A KG.

It says there: building bases must not extend above the finished floor level of the ground floor and must not be higher than 30cm (12 inches). What exactly does that mean?
Fairplay-Haus schrieb:

It may then only be allowed to build 2 full floors and plan the attic as a third full floor but not to develop it. I am not familiar with the regional building regulations, so I think the attic has to be planned as an unfinished space without a fixed staircase.

Does that mean I could possibly manage to build 2 full floors and label the attic as the third floor?
Fairplay-Haus schrieb:

Avoid building class 4, because otherwise you might need a comprehensive fire safety report and a structural engineer’s inspection. As I said, this has to be checked.

So it should stay below 13 meters (43 feet)?
Escroda schrieb:

Why not? Apparently, no neighbor has followed the dormer ban, so the attic can quite easily become a full floor.

How can you tell that neighbors have not complied with that?
Escroda schrieb:

The site is designated for multi-family residential buildings, and the neighborhood has mostly implemented this. I recommend selling and finding a suitable plot. Especially since the number of floors is not the only issue—I’m talking about trees and building lines.


Selling is not an option since it has been in the family for ages. There are two trees where the building is planned. I would have to apply for their removal... How do you know that there are trees there?

Thanks in advance for your ideas. How can I even imagine a penthouse apartment if the roof must be a pitched roof? Sorry, I really have no experience in this field yet.

One last question. How many floors does the house in the attached picture have? I just want to understand.
Corner house with shop fronts on the ground floor, living spaces above; street scene from inside a car.

Regards
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Nordlys
6 May 2019 20:45
2. That has 2
kaho6746 May 2019 20:55
Nordlys schrieb:

2. That has 2
No. It looks like 3, I would say. In the attic, probably more than two-thirds are higher than 2.30m (7 ft 7 in) compared to the floor below.