ᐅ Remove oil heating, install gas condensing boiler plus solar?

Created on: 18 Mar 2019 09:21
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Pianist
Good day to all readers!

Recently, as I do every two years, I attended the ISH trade fair in Frankfurt. After such an event, you naturally start feeling interested in new home technology. My oil-fired central heating system (Viessmann Vitola 200) is now 20 years old and runs perfectly; even the chimney sweep is satisfied with the readings. Objectively, there is no reason to replace it yet.

On the other hand, I consider myself a responsible person who likes to contribute to making things better. Last year, I replaced my diesel car with a natural gas vehicle, and I also switched to a genuine green electricity provider. Emotionally, I would definitely like to stop burning oil in the future, as I now regard it as almost unforgivable.

Gas supply is available in my street in a suburban area of Berlin. My roof shape is not ideal for solar thermal systems but also not completely unsuitable. It is a half-hipped roof with a north-south ridge, incorporating four dormers. I estimate that about 12 square meters (130 square feet) of collector area could fit on each side in the central section, but this would need to be examined more closely if I proceed.

The space currently occupied by the oil tank I would rather use for a private sauna and cancel my gym membership. I pay 1,000 EUR per year and rarely go due to lack of suitable time slots. The same applies to my father, so that would be about 2,000 EUR per year saved—enough to cover the cost of a sauna.

There would also be room for a sufficiently sized buffer tank. Another aspect is that my main workrooms are located in the basement, which tends to be too cold in summer. From April to October, I switch the system from heating to hot water only.

Now I am wondering: If I install a gas condensing boiler combined with solar thermal, I would ideally have enough hot water in summer and could warm the basement workrooms a little, while using little to no gas. In winter, my gas consumption would likely be less than my current oil use, since a new system would obviously be more efficient than my 20-year-old one.

The downside is that I have to consume gas as I buy it, and can’t purchase it when prices are low, unlike oil, which I can stockpile for over a year and buy when prices dip. Currently, I use about 3,200 liters (845 gallons) of heating oil annually to heat roughly 300 square meters (3,230 square feet) of living and usable space. That’s already significantly better than the national average.

So here is the big question: Is it sensible to switch now, or not? Will it actually improve my energy and cost balance? I assume I will have to switch within five to ten years anyway.

Thanks for all helpful thoughts!

Matthias
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tumaa
18 Mar 2019 14:47
Pianist schrieb:
I would rather use the space currently occupied by the oil tank for a private sauna and cancel my gym membership. I pay 1,000 EUR per year and hardly go because I don’t have suitable time slots. The same applies to my father, so together that’s 2,000 EUR per year. That should be enough to finance a private sauna.

Wow… I wonder what’s included? I pay 240 EUR per year for access 24 hours a day, drinks, childcare, sauna (bio, Finnish sauna, and infrared cabin), sports, and solarium.
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Lumpi_LE
18 Mar 2019 15:02
Luxury fitness and wellness centers like that are already available for a monthly fee of 80–100€ (90–110 USD)... but only if you actually go.
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Anoxio
18 Mar 2019 16:20
I wouldn’t change anything there. Is the house even up to the standard that you can heat it efficiently with a condensing boiler? A sauna cabin fits (almost) anywhere. There are also very nice models for outdoor use; would that be an option? With an annual cost of around 2,000 euros, that’s covered quickly. Just don’t forget to include the heating costs for the sauna in your calculations...
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apokolok
18 Mar 2019 16:54
What is also missing from the invoice:
Many energy suppliers are no longer very interested in selling gas and charge exorbitant prices for the gas connection.
Do you already have a concrete offer? I have heard of five-figure amounts just for a few meters of connection.
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Pianist
18 Mar 2019 20:35
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
As halmi says, as long as the system is running, you’re not doing any favor to the environment or your wallet.
If the burner eventually breaks down, heat pump + photovoltaic.
I never really considered heat pump + photovoltaic before because I see the basic problem that I mainly have electricity when I don’t need heating anyway. In winter, when heating is necessary, I hardly have any photovoltaic power. For me, that seems rather doubtful...
Garten2 schrieb:
@Pianist
If your plan from last year to buy a new plot for future development is still current, then getting a new heating system for the house that is still occupied doesn’t make much sense. Because when you sell, no one will pay you more just because you replaced the heating system.

Or have you decided to stay?
Well, back then that was meant as an additional project. Probably unrealistic anyway due to lack of suitable plots. Currently, I’m more thinking about building something on the back part of the current property. However, that would have to be quite extensive if it is supposed to take over all the functions of the current house, so that the front house could then be rented out. Only then would it make sense.
Malz1902 schrieb:
$1000 per year for the gym? Do they do the exercise for you?
It costs 85 EUR per month, so roughly $1,000 per year. Most of the important exercises for me can also be done at home on a mat. What I would really miss is the sauna. That’s why I’m considering it. And there would only be space there where the oil tank is now. A shower would also have to be installed.

I’m aware that replacing one fossil fuel with another is not ideal. But natural gas simply has a better CO2 footprint than oil. And I do think consumption will noticeably decrease. Are there any online calculators where I can roughly estimate how much gas I would use with a modern condensing boiler plus solar support if I now use about ten liters of heating oil per square meter per year?

Burning heating oil cannot be a permanent solution...

Matthias
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Garten2
18 Mar 2019 20:43
Pianist schrieb:
I have never really considered heat pumps combined with photovoltaic systems before because I always see the fundamental problem that I mainly have electricity when I don’t need heating anyway…

Burning heating oil cannot be a long-term solution…

Matthias

If you have underfloor heating, then a ground source borehole would be ideal.

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