ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Either way, I "lose" 80 cm (32 inches). Not if the house is moved closer and not if the garage is made larger. Or maybe I misunderstand you.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
The main issue is not being right on the neighbor’s boundary, so moving the house doesn’t help. But once the plans are ready, we will go through all the options. The fear of the neighbor seems to be turning into a phobia. Did they do something to you? Do you even know them?
I would be much more concerned about having to build closer to the street, where the traffic noise would bother me all day.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Regarding ceiling height again: If I increase it by, say, half a brick, I would also need to make the windows larger, right? To keep the proportions correct. An increase of 10cm (4 inches) or so won’t ruin the overall look. But I would want larger windows for your house anyway. For that, we would first need to see the elevations. Or did I miss them?
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Bauherrin9227 Feb 2019 08:20kaho674 schrieb:
Not if the house is moved closer and not if the garage gets bigger. Or I don’t understand you.Placing the house next to the garage -> lose 80cm (31 inches) on the east side
Placing the garage next to the house -> lose 80cm (31 inches) on the west side
Making the garage bigger -> we need to apply for approval
kaho674 schrieb:
The fear of the neighbor seems to be turning into a phobiaNo, it’s just that the building authority warned us about it and passed the concern on to my husband...
kaho674 schrieb:
But we’d need the elevations first. Or did I miss them?I have elevations here, but from the previous plan
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Placing the house next to the garage -> losing 80 cm (31 inches) on the east side They’re not really losing that space! This extends the 3 m (10 feet) boundary to 3.80 m (12.5 feet) and remains freely accessible. So instead of 6 rows of strawberry plants, you could plant 8 rows. That’s definitely something.
Those designs are a joke, if you ask me. It’s starting to look like a Hundertwasser building, not meaning to offend. And the small windows remind me of loopholes. That’s what a townhouse looks like nowadays – at least what you’re probably planning:
…not that I want to give it any special beauty award.
Maybe the architect still has a creative color-material highlight up their sleeve that doesn’t come across here. But so far it looks very dull and mismatched.
montessalet27 Feb 2019 09:32kaho674 schrieb:
They’re not lost, are they?! They’re widening the 3m (10 feet) limit to 3.80m (12.5 feet) and making it freely accessible. So instead of 6 rows of strawberry beds, you can plant 8 rows. That’s not insignificant.
The designs are a joke, if you ask me. It’s starting to look like something out of Hundertwasser, no offense intended. And the small windows remind me of loopholes. This is what a townhouse looks like today – at least what you’re probably planning:
Maybe the architect has some creative color-material surprise up their sleeve that isn’t coming through here. But so far it looks very dull and mismatched.No offense meant, Katja, but those examples with pointless huge windows are exactly not what many people want. What good are floor-to-ceiling windows if you block them with a couch? Just because they may look "nice" from the outside (and even that is subjective)?
Where large beautiful windows are desired, I think that’s great. Looking at our current planning stage, there definitely aren’t floor-to-ceiling windows everywhere. Therefore, I find the elevations quite acceptable (although the symmetry leaves something to be desired). The main driver for the windows is the room size and what is going to be inside. Perhaps the placement can still be optimized.
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Bauherrin9227 Feb 2019 09:33kaho674 schrieb:
They’re not lost, are they?! They’re extending the 3m (10 feet) boundary to 3.80m (12.5 feet) and are freely accessible.Doesn’t the fence also have to be on the building boundary? Or is it allowed to extend up to the sidewalk?
kaho674 schrieb:
Those opinions are a joke, if you ask me.We’re not happy with this either. I’m considering improving it a bit with some paint.
kaho674 schrieb:
This is what a townhouse looks like today – at least the kind you’re probably planning:Oh yes, you’ve exactly hit my taste, I’d love to build like that if we could afford it.
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Bauherrin9227 Feb 2019 09:41montessalet schrieb:
Where desired, beautiful large windows: I think that’s great.At first, I was completely obsessed and wanted floor-to-ceiling windows everywhere. After arranging the furniture in the rooms (and, of course, considering the costs), we ultimately decided to have floor-to-ceiling windows only in the children’s rooms so they can look out onto the garden. And of course, large window surfaces by the terrace.
montessalet schrieb:
Therefore, I find the views quite acceptable (although the symmetry leaves something to be desired).That won’t stay that way.
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