ᐅ Another hipped-roof urban villa (240 sqm)

Created on: 9 Feb 2019 21:30
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Traumhaus2020
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)

Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…

House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas

If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.

Why did the design turn out as it is now?

I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.

What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?

The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.

The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.

Good luck
Alro

Floor plan of a house: garage, entrance, hallway, kitchen/dining/living, TV corner, aquarium.


Floor plan of an apartment with balcony, gallery, stairs, hallway, two children’s rooms


Floor plan of a multi-room house with utility, stairs, office, storage, bath/aquarium technology.
kaho67418 Feb 2019 10:36
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:

Why exactly? Is a hip roof really that much more expensive compared to a gable roof? Are we talking about 1.5 times or twice as expensive? Or is it because of the two full floors?

No, at 750K it’s not the hip roof that’s the issue. It really comes down to personal taste. Hip roofs are so common and built everywhere—even the last amateur is now building a city house with a hip roof. Many people (myself included) are just tired of seeing them, and there are entire developments that end up looking like a block playground because of that.

Those who have the budget (and 750K is already quite substantial here) in my opinion build something a bit more original. How it looks in the end varies individually. But you don’t have to worry about that. Hip roofs can still look great, and it also depends on the overall style.
I have a hip roof myself—I just wouldn’t build it that way again today.

Check out, for example, this:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-172qm-fragen-zum-schnitt-Dachstuhl-und-Klinker.27213/

It’s personal, and I think it’s really great.
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Yosan
18 Feb 2019 10:52
I don’t understand why hip roof builders are always so criticized. If you put budgets aside, it’s primarily a matter of personal taste. For example, I would always prefer any standard city villa over an architect-designed flat roof Bauhaus-style house because I simply find the latter really ugly (at least all the ones I have seen so far). And individuality ultimately comes from the interior anyway.
kaho67418 Feb 2019 12:29
Yosan schrieb:
I don’t understand why hip roof builders are always criticized so much. ...
For example, I would always prefer a standard suburban villa in terms of appearance over an architect-designed flat roof Bauhaus house, because I simply find the latter extremely unattractive.
There is more than just Bauhaus style. What about country houses, industrial design, classicism, and so on? Does it always have to be a townhouse?
Yosan schrieb:

And individuality ultimately comes from the inside.
Not for the person standing outside.
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Yosan
18 Feb 2019 12:38
kaho674 schrieb:
There are more options than just Bauhaus. What about country house style, industrial design, classicism, etc.? Does it always have to be a townhouse?

It doesn’t have to be. But it can be if that’s simply your own taste. If everyone else on the street likes that style, they can build that way too. And you can ignore anyone standing outside thinking, “oh, that style again,” as long as you build the house the way you want to have it.
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ypg
18 Feb 2019 13:12
haydee schrieb:
@Traumhaus2020

With your budget and sloped site, something other than a town villa was possible. That is regretted.

That’s what I meant, yes.
Sometimes, taste has to be adjusted to the external conditions. Square, practical, and functional... which rarely fits well on a slope. This “square, practical, and functional” approach here is synonymous with the classic limited foresight of the amateur home designer. I do not mean to offend anyone, as I include myself in that.
In my view, it is the task of a competent architect to design a desired room program for a challenging lot.
Take a look at the discussion about a sloped triangular lot by @Oakland.
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haydee
18 Feb 2019 13:17
Well, that will make quite a house. Hopefully, the tree will stand for a long time.