ᐅ Single-family house – flat roof – edge of forest location – 175 sqm
Created on: 16 Feb 2019 22:03
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benediktr
After being a silent reader in this forum for a long time, I would now like to share my thoughts and ideas with you. I hope to receive some suggestions for improvement and constructive feedback.
Unfortunately, I cannot provide a site plan at the moment. Therefore, here is a screenshot of the property. I have roughly traced it on the ground floor plan. The exact orientation definitely needs further planning. It is plot number 51.
Below, I try to outline the essentials in the questionnaire.
Development plan/restrictions
Section 34 of the Building Code
Plot size
580 sqm (6,243 sq ft)
Slope
No direct slope; terrain descends about 3 m (10 ft) from north to south and roughly 3 m (10 ft) from west to east; retaining wall to the south present
Building setbacks
North/East/South – 3 m (10 ft), West – 6 m (20 ft)
Number of parking spaces
1-2
Number of floors
2 full stories plus basement
Roof type
Flat roof
Architectural style
Modern
Orientation
Southwest
Maximum heights/limits
-
Other specifications
Owners’ requirements
Room layout as shown in the plan; spacious living-dining-kitchen area
Style, roof type, building type
Flat roof
Number of occupants, ages
Currently 2 people, 28 and 26 years old; planning for 1-2 children
Room requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
GF: living, dining, kitchen, utility room, WC
UF: bathroom, 2 children's rooms, bedroom plus walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office?
Family use
Guest overnight stays per year
Very seldom
Open or closed architecture
Open
Conservative or modern construction
Modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
Corner fireplace
Music/stereo wall
No
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine, including reasons for preferences
- Staircase from ground floor to upper floor should start in the dining area and not be visible from the living room
- Living room preferably on the west side, as we both work very long hours
House design
Who did the planning?
Do-it-yourself, using various floor plans as templates
What do you particularly like? Why?
Straight staircase, layout of living, dining, and kitchen areas, corner fireplace
What do you not like? Why?
I am unsure if the rooms upstairs might be a bit too narrow due to the straight staircase. This could be improved with a landing staircase, but that is just a minor point to accept.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
450,000
Preferred heating technology:
Gas condensing boiler, possibly with a water jacket in the fireplace
If you have to give up something, what details/features
- can you forgo? Partition separating the WC in the bathroom
- cannot you do without? Walk-in closet
Why did the design become what it is now?
Room orientation on the plot guided the design based on our wishes. View to the west, looking over forest and fields. Access from the north to avoid an outdoor staircase.
What do you think are its strengths or weaknesses?
We would prefer to avoid floor-to-ceiling windows on the south side, as the neighbor’s front door is there, which is not ideal for brightness. Large window fronts on the west side due to the view, as mentioned. A window in the walk-in closet could still be planned.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Do you think the upper floor rooms might feel "narrow and elongated"? Budget?
Unfortunately, I cannot provide a site plan at the moment. Therefore, here is a screenshot of the property. I have roughly traced it on the ground floor plan. The exact orientation definitely needs further planning. It is plot number 51.
Below, I try to outline the essentials in the questionnaire.
Development plan/restrictions
Section 34 of the Building Code
Plot size
580 sqm (6,243 sq ft)
Slope
No direct slope; terrain descends about 3 m (10 ft) from north to south and roughly 3 m (10 ft) from west to east; retaining wall to the south present
Building setbacks
North/East/South – 3 m (10 ft), West – 6 m (20 ft)
Number of parking spaces
1-2
Number of floors
2 full stories plus basement
Roof type
Flat roof
Architectural style
Modern
Orientation
Southwest
Maximum heights/limits
-
Other specifications
Owners’ requirements
Room layout as shown in the plan; spacious living-dining-kitchen area
Style, roof type, building type
Flat roof
Number of occupants, ages
Currently 2 people, 28 and 26 years old; planning for 1-2 children
Room requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
GF: living, dining, kitchen, utility room, WC
UF: bathroom, 2 children's rooms, bedroom plus walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office?
Family use
Guest overnight stays per year
Very seldom
Open or closed architecture
Open
Conservative or modern construction
Modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
Corner fireplace
Music/stereo wall
No
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine, including reasons for preferences
- Staircase from ground floor to upper floor should start in the dining area and not be visible from the living room
- Living room preferably on the west side, as we both work very long hours
House design
Who did the planning?
Do-it-yourself, using various floor plans as templates
What do you particularly like? Why?
Straight staircase, layout of living, dining, and kitchen areas, corner fireplace
What do you not like? Why?
I am unsure if the rooms upstairs might be a bit too narrow due to the straight staircase. This could be improved with a landing staircase, but that is just a minor point to accept.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
450,000
Preferred heating technology:
Gas condensing boiler, possibly with a water jacket in the fireplace
If you have to give up something, what details/features
- can you forgo? Partition separating the WC in the bathroom
- cannot you do without? Walk-in closet
Why did the design become what it is now?
Room orientation on the plot guided the design based on our wishes. View to the west, looking over forest and fields. Access from the north to avoid an outdoor staircase.
What do you think are its strengths or weaknesses?
We would prefer to avoid floor-to-ceiling windows on the south side, as the neighbor’s front door is there, which is not ideal for brightness. Large window fronts on the west side due to the view, as mentioned. A window in the walk-in closet could still be planned.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Do you think the upper floor rooms might feel "narrow and elongated"? Budget?
benediktr schrieb:
The utility room is not the classic one as many use it here. It is mainly intended for ironing and as storage for cleaning supplies, vacuum cleaner, etc. Therefore, I consider its location on the ground floor to be practical. I have it that way Then it could even be smaller... I would place the door under the stairs. More centrally accessible...
benediktr schrieb:
I have already tried a staircase with a landing or a U-shaped staircase. For what purpose? The rooms upstairs are quite wide. That is all that really matters.
There is still some leeway with K2 (wall to the hallway), K1 could then benefit from K2 (partition wall)
I don’t understand the slope. I don’t get why 3 meters (10 feet) is considered insignificant. So in that respect, I see a big unknown here.
ypg schrieb:
Then it could even be smaller... I would place the door under the stairs. More centrally accessible...To break your neck immediately if you fall down the basement stairs?
Or is that what you meant?
face26 schrieb:
To break your neck immediately if you fall into the basement?
Or what do you mean?In theory, without a basement...
I forgot the basement, thanks for pointing that out.
Doing the work yourself is great. Do you have that many helpers? With just one or two people, you won’t get very far.
If you have enough helpers, the budget looks better.
But having the kitchen in the flight path helps because the dirt only gets on the 2 meters (6.5 feet) to the fridge, and that area is tiled.
Just as an example.
This morning, five adults were sitting warmly dressed on the terrace while the children were playing in the wet, partly frozen sand and gravel. Having the coffee machine right by the door is very valuable then. Or you have to make sure there’s no bakery or ducks in the neighborhood.
About the widths:
The bedroom and one of the children’s rooms are 3.8 meters (12.5 feet) wide for us, both about 19 square meters (205 square feet) in size, which is not narrow at all.
Child’s room 2 is 3.15 meters (10.3 feet) wide, also about 19 square meters (205 square feet), which still works. A few more centimeters would be nice, but that’s no reason to throw the floor plan out.
What is on the north side at the triangle?
I’m curious about the height specifications—somehow I can’t reconcile the slope with the plan.
If you have enough helpers, the budget looks better.
But having the kitchen in the flight path helps because the dirt only gets on the 2 meters (6.5 feet) to the fridge, and that area is tiled.
Just as an example.
This morning, five adults were sitting warmly dressed on the terrace while the children were playing in the wet, partly frozen sand and gravel. Having the coffee machine right by the door is very valuable then. Or you have to make sure there’s no bakery or ducks in the neighborhood.
About the widths:
The bedroom and one of the children’s rooms are 3.8 meters (12.5 feet) wide for us, both about 19 square meters (205 square feet) in size, which is not narrow at all.
Child’s room 2 is 3.15 meters (10.3 feet) wide, also about 19 square meters (205 square feet), which still works. A few more centimeters would be nice, but that’s no reason to throw the floor plan out.
What is on the north side at the triangle?
I’m curious about the height specifications—somehow I can’t reconcile the slope with the plan.
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I think the floor plan is okay. The bathroom is too large, and the layout isn’t really to my taste, but that’s a matter of personal preference.
You can still get more out of the staircase. Depending on its length and the ceiling height you’re planning, you can build the first step on the upper floor 1-2 steps over the floor below. The same effect applies on the ground floor – the last step disappears into the ceiling. Overall, this means the staircase can be moved a bit closer toward the front door. This has several positive effects:
The door for Child 1 can be moved downward as planned, the corner in Child 2’s room becomes significantly smaller – if you also count the hallway, the bathroom ends up a bit smaller.
You can still get more out of the staircase. Depending on its length and the ceiling height you’re planning, you can build the first step on the upper floor 1-2 steps over the floor below. The same effect applies on the ground floor – the last step disappears into the ceiling. Overall, this means the staircase can be moved a bit closer toward the front door. This has several positive effects:
The door for Child 1 can be moved downward as planned, the corner in Child 2’s room becomes significantly smaller – if you also count the hallway, the bathroom ends up a bit smaller.
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