Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Of course, the word not is missing here.
Isn't that called a Freudian slip? Oh, I took it literally.
I don’t iron alone in a quiet room without a view of the TV or the child.
And even for ironing, the room is oversized.
I would swap the TV and kitchen. Having the kitchen by the terrace greatly shortens the walking distance.
I would give the walk-in closet straight walls.
Ok, the budget is no longer so generous.
Remove the open space, move the laundry to the basement.
Remove the balcony and, if necessary, the children’s bathroom.
And even for ironing, the room is oversized.
I would swap the TV and kitchen. Having the kitchen by the terrace greatly shortens the walking distance.
I would give the walk-in closet straight walls.
Ok, the budget is no longer so generous.
Remove the open space, move the laundry to the basement.
Remove the balcony and, if necessary, the children’s bathroom.
T
Traumhaus202011 Feb 2019 09:24Regarding basements:
@ypg I think I can guess the direction of your thoughts regarding basements...
1. Building without a basement is absolutely not an option! Whether on a slope or not. Here in Bavaria, you would be rightly shunned for that.
2. Since the two sons are still very young (4 and 0 years old), a spatial separation (across floors) between parents and children is also not an option.
@ypg I think I can guess the direction of your thoughts regarding basements...
1. Building without a basement is absolutely not an option! Whether on a slope or not. Here in Bavaria, you would be rightly shunned for that.
2. Since the two sons are still very young (4 and 0 years old), a spatial separation (across floors) between parents and children is also not an option.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Regarding basements:
@ypg I think I can guess the direction of your thoughts about basements...
1. Building without a basement is absolutely out of the question! Whether on a slope or not. Here in Bavaria, you would be rightly excommunicated for that
2. Since both sons are still very young (4 and 0), separating parents and children by floors is also not an option.Regarding your first point:
- 80% of my relatives say: only with a basement... but I’m sticking to building without one, show a little more confidence?
- In my opinion, it’s also a matter of trends, but for the future I see more tendency towards slab-on-grade foundations.
Regarding the second point:
- I can understand that
Could you please share how you envision the cost breakdown?
I hope the plot of land is not included in the 750,000 figure?
Even without the land, it could get tight for the house size, depending on technical “features” and proximity to Munich.
I do find some ideas quite nice! For example, I like the large entrance area as a concept. But try placing furniture in the plan—it will be somewhat awkward or wasted space, since the hallway position leaves hardly any options for placing furniture in the lower part of the plan.
In my opinion, the open space won’t have much effect at all. You’ll just walk past it, yes. But why would anyone stand at the railing on the upper floor and look down? Or when entering from above—you mainly want to enter the house, take off shoes and jacket, and go into the proper living areas. For visual impact, I think it should be over, for example, the dining table.
Why is there supposed to be another sofa in the dining area? Is it there just because there was extra space?
I would also expect the entrance to the dining area to be bigger and more open—double doors or a glass sidelight, for instance—to match the house.
What do you plan to put in the alcove by the aquarium in the hallway? Or will it be left open for more spaciousness?
Having the kitchen next to the terrace with direct access really has advantages! I can only recommend it!
The wardrobe niches upstairs are too narrow. Presumably, there will be plaster on top? Even without, a 60cm (24 inch) wardrobe would protrude—especially without sliding doors.
These are just some points so far; the location on the plot would certainly be interesting as well. Overall, despite the large exterior dimensions, I don’t find the interior space planning ideal.
I hope the plot of land is not included in the 750,000 figure?
Even without the land, it could get tight for the house size, depending on technical “features” and proximity to Munich.
I do find some ideas quite nice! For example, I like the large entrance area as a concept. But try placing furniture in the plan—it will be somewhat awkward or wasted space, since the hallway position leaves hardly any options for placing furniture in the lower part of the plan.
In my opinion, the open space won’t have much effect at all. You’ll just walk past it, yes. But why would anyone stand at the railing on the upper floor and look down? Or when entering from above—you mainly want to enter the house, take off shoes and jacket, and go into the proper living areas. For visual impact, I think it should be over, for example, the dining table.
Why is there supposed to be another sofa in the dining area? Is it there just because there was extra space?
I would also expect the entrance to the dining area to be bigger and more open—double doors or a glass sidelight, for instance—to match the house.
What do you plan to put in the alcove by the aquarium in the hallway? Or will it be left open for more spaciousness?
Having the kitchen next to the terrace with direct access really has advantages! I can only recommend it!
The wardrobe niches upstairs are too narrow. Presumably, there will be plaster on top? Even without, a 60cm (24 inch) wardrobe would protrude—especially without sliding doors.
These are just some points so far; the location on the plot would certainly be interesting as well. Overall, despite the large exterior dimensions, I don’t find the interior space planning ideal.
T
Traumhaus202011 Feb 2019 09:44tumaa schrieb:
Regarding your first point:
- 80% of my relatives say: only with a basement... but I’m sticking to building without a basement, show a bit more confidence?
- In my opinion, it’s also a matter of trends, but looking ahead, I see a tendency more toward slab-on-grade foundations. This absolutely has nothing to do with a lack of confidence or external pressure (to be honest, I haven’t even discussed it with anyone, since it’s not really a question for me).
It’s simply not an option for us. Period. We can all save a lot of time if we don’t continue to entertain these heretical thoughts.
If it is the current trend and the direction things are going, then I’m showing confidence by firmly going against the trend.
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