Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
An aquarium enthusiast—how nice! I am one too! I have three; how many do you have? I’ve also prepared a spot in the living room for my future (not yet realized) 200x60x60 cm (79x24x24 inches) tank. So far, there’s only a 130 cm (51 inches) one there.
Remember not to install underfloor heating there, or it will get crushed.
A floor plan might be a start, but for 750k it’s too basic and flawed. Especially the lighting in the hallway is an issue; it can’t stay like that with that budget.
I wouldn’t push for separating the floors either. You’d expect the entrance to the living area to be right where the tank is located.
Does the garage have to be attached to the house? Huge utility room, bedroom next to kids’ room—these are some minor errors that aren’t necessary. My predecessors already mentioned them.
With that kind of money, you could probably build an amazing mansion. Why don’t you hire an architect?
Remember not to install underfloor heating there, or it will get crushed.
A floor plan might be a start, but for 750k it’s too basic and flawed. Especially the lighting in the hallway is an issue; it can’t stay like that with that budget.
I wouldn’t push for separating the floors either. You’d expect the entrance to the living area to be right where the tank is located.
Does the garage have to be attached to the house? Huge utility room, bedroom next to kids’ room—these are some minor errors that aren’t necessary. My predecessors already mentioned them.
With that kind of money, you could probably build an amazing mansion. Why don’t you hire an architect?
T
Traumhaus202010 Feb 2019 22:23Regarding the points:
2 Apartments
Before everyone gets fixated on this: I did not design the floor plan with that intention. Rather, I eventually noticed (when the floor plan already looked like this) that it would be relatively easy to create 2 apartments from it… I see this as a nice-to-have but NOT a must-have! The plan was also not to rent to strangers, but rather to use it as a multi-generational house, in case one of the sons doesn’t move away.
The goal is, of course, to find the perfect floor plan for a single-family home!
Budget
Yes, 750k is a lot, but that covers everything completely! Not just the house, but also the basement, driveway, terrace, garden, double garage, kitchen, furnishings, etc… I think you all know better than I do how those costs add up. And I definitely mean no expense spared… Anyone who can build me a palace here in the Munich area will be hired immediately! Everything here seems roughly 30% more expensive across the board.
Balcony
You’re right: it’s quite narrow and therefore not very useful. I definitely want a bay window, and a balcony naturally fits above it. You could simply extend the balcony on the left side that is not above the bay window, and then I would also have a nice covered terrace area underneath, like in this example from Google: Arge Haus House of the Year. (I guess linking is not allowed?)
Utility room too large
I (and especially my wife) don’t see it that way. Anyone with children knows how often the washing machine runs… Then the ironing board should be able to stay out permanently without having to be constantly folded away. Plus, you need a drying rack, etc. Given how much time she spends in there, it’s totally understandable she wants it spacious!
That the utility room’s location takes space from the kitchen is an argument against its position but not its size.
Gallery
Maybe the wall between the staircase and the gallery is misleading. It is supposed to be “open,” so just a glass railing or similar. Or is it still not considered a gallery then? I’m not sure how else to describe it…
Aquarium
@kaho674 It’s great that there are other aquarium enthusiasts here! Then you at least appreciate a nice display tank. Currently, I have a roughly 400 L (130cm x 60cm x 50cm) tank. I will keep the floor heating cut-out and static load in mind.
Architect
Yes, we will hire one (at least for the designs). Especially because of the slight slope. Whether to go full architectural service is undecided. At the moment, we are leaning more toward a concrete shell general contractor with designs from an architect. (The architect will of course have full creative freedom, and I won’t restrict him with my drafts.)
Plot
I will provide a site plan later. Only then can the driveway and the location of the garage be discussed.
2 Apartments
Before everyone gets fixated on this: I did not design the floor plan with that intention. Rather, I eventually noticed (when the floor plan already looked like this) that it would be relatively easy to create 2 apartments from it… I see this as a nice-to-have but NOT a must-have! The plan was also not to rent to strangers, but rather to use it as a multi-generational house, in case one of the sons doesn’t move away.
The goal is, of course, to find the perfect floor plan for a single-family home!
Budget
Yes, 750k is a lot, but that covers everything completely! Not just the house, but also the basement, driveway, terrace, garden, double garage, kitchen, furnishings, etc… I think you all know better than I do how those costs add up. And I definitely mean no expense spared… Anyone who can build me a palace here in the Munich area will be hired immediately! Everything here seems roughly 30% more expensive across the board.
Balcony
You’re right: it’s quite narrow and therefore not very useful. I definitely want a bay window, and a balcony naturally fits above it. You could simply extend the balcony on the left side that is not above the bay window, and then I would also have a nice covered terrace area underneath, like in this example from Google: Arge Haus House of the Year. (I guess linking is not allowed?)
Utility room too large
I (and especially my wife) don’t see it that way. Anyone with children knows how often the washing machine runs… Then the ironing board should be able to stay out permanently without having to be constantly folded away. Plus, you need a drying rack, etc. Given how much time she spends in there, it’s totally understandable she wants it spacious!
That the utility room’s location takes space from the kitchen is an argument against its position but not its size.
Gallery
Maybe the wall between the staircase and the gallery is misleading. It is supposed to be “open,” so just a glass railing or similar. Or is it still not considered a gallery then? I’m not sure how else to describe it…
Aquarium
@kaho674 It’s great that there are other aquarium enthusiasts here! Then you at least appreciate a nice display tank. Currently, I have a roughly 400 L (130cm x 60cm x 50cm) tank. I will keep the floor heating cut-out and static load in mind.
Architect
Yes, we will hire one (at least for the designs). Especially because of the slight slope. Whether to go full architectural service is undecided. At the moment, we are leaning more toward a concrete shell general contractor with designs from an architect. (The architect will of course have full creative freedom, and I won’t restrict him with my drafts.)
Plot
I will provide a site plan later. Only then can the driveway and the location of the garage be discussed.
T
Traumhaus202010 Feb 2019 23:02haydee schrieb:
So the kitchen is not next to the terrace? No. The right side/east is planned as a slope to allow the office and hobby room in the basement to have windows.
haydee schrieb:
Do you have direct garden access from the ground floor? Despite a slight incline, it is planned that way, yes.
haydee schrieb:
The walk-in closet has a few unnecessary corners. The recesses are intended for cabinets. I don’t see what would still be unnecessary.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
that you could relatively easily convert it into two apartments… I think that’s a nice-to-have featureBut it’s not that simple. Tip: either you want that or you don’t. This should be clearly defined at the very beginning of the design process, and then the house is designed accordingly.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
The goal is, of course, to find a perfect floor plan for a single-family house!Then please just delete this draft.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
And I’m definitely talking about golden faucetsTraumhaus2020 schrieb:
I really want a bay windowWhy?
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
and a balcony naturally fits above it.But that costs more than a flat roof, which is not a balcony.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Utility room is too big
I (and especially my wife) don’t see it that way. Anyone with children knows how often the washing machine runs... Then the ironing board should be able to stay set up permanently without having to be folded and put away all the time.Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Considering how much time she will spend in there, it’s absolutely understandable that she wants it spacious!The housewife gets a study. That is generous... Okay, if that’s what she wants, then she should have it. My husband and I actually prefer ironing in a more comfortable room where Netflix and such can make ironing more enjoyable.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Or is it still not a gallery then? I don’t know what else to call it…That is still an open void. Voids usually are just open spaces. A gallery is an open area connected to such a void.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Currently we are leaning more towards a solid construction with a general contractor and a design by an architect.Good decision. However, in this price range, I wouldn’t choose a general contractor build. Search here for the user R.Hotzenplotz. He has also built in this price range or is still building.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Personal budget for the house, including fittings: €750,000Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Yes, 750k is a lot, but it’s all-inclusive! Not just the house, but also the basement, driveway, terrace, garden, double garage, kitchen, furniture, etc…Wow, that contradicts itself. That only leaves about €550,000. What about additional construction costs? Do those also have to be covered?
Here’s a tip: you have a large footprint, but it doesn’t really add value. Plus, the forced basement due to the slope. I also see oversized areas on the ground floor and basement because of the needed square meters upstairs. To keep costs clearer, I would consider:
In the basement, a master area with a large office where ironing can also be done, possibly with an outside access.
Service rooms should be efficient, no placeholder rooms that are essentially surplus and will just become cluttered later.
Reconsider the open void because of the echoing noise, which is bad for children’s sleep, or plan it completely differently. Maybe place the children in the basement if you can’t do without the gallery/open void? Depends on the slope… then parents/office upstairs…
But basically: avoid unnecessary corners inside a rectangle. You create unusable rooms, spaces, and access points. Especially if you are familiar with Feng Shui, you know these are rather negative.
(I also wouldn’t know what an aquarium is doing in the middle of the house)
You say it yourself: no cookie-cutter design… but the house itself doesn’t need reinventing.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
No. The right side/east is planned as a slope to allow windows in the office and hobby room in the basement.
Despite a slight incline, that is the plan, yes.
The recesses are intended for cabinets. I can’t see what would be unnecessary.Built-in cabinets are usually designed so that they don’t stand out in the back or front. Everything should be flush so that you don’t notice them. Here, they are roughly placed in a room without considering the adjacent room(s).
Is the slope such that it would be better to place the living area in the basement?
T
Traumhaus202010 Feb 2019 23:22Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
And I am definitely talking about golden faucets Of course, the word not is missing here.
Wouldn't this be called a Freudian slip?
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