ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
P.S. I recall it must have been this thread where the original poster already knew what she wanted and how she wanted her house. And Katja sketched something despite having a cough. I wouldn’t get the impression that the original poster wanted these major changes.
Since Katja @kaho674 likes to share her ideas, even if they’re not wanted (she recently mentioned this elsewhere because it’s her hobby), you can’t really complain about it afterwards.
Sorry for going off-topic...
Well, I also got caught and spent four hours last night working on an idea in the neighboring thread – but the original poster has not responded at all there.
And today I might keep experimenting because it’s fun. We can’t complain about that.
Although, of course, it’s frustrating when there’s no communication. That does leave you feeling a bit disappointed.
Since Katja @kaho674 likes to share her ideas, even if they’re not wanted (she recently mentioned this elsewhere because it’s her hobby), you can’t really complain about it afterwards.
Sorry for going off-topic...
Well, I also got caught and spent four hours last night working on an idea in the neighboring thread – but the original poster has not responded at all there.
And today I might keep experimenting because it’s fun. We can’t complain about that.
Although, of course, it’s frustrating when there’s no communication. That does leave you feeling a bit disappointed.
ypg schrieb:
P.S. I remember, it must have been this thread where the OP already knew what and how she wanted her house. And Katja made some sketches despite having a cough. I didn’t get the impression that the OP wanted these major changes.
Since Katja @kaho674 likes to contribute her ideas, even when they are not wanted (she recently mentioned this elsewhere because it’s her hobby), then you can’t really complain about it.
Sorry for going off-topic...
Well, I also got caught and spent 4 hours last night working on an idea in a neighboring thread – where the OP hasn’t responded at all.
And maybe today there will be more experimenting – because it’s fun. We can’t complain about that.
Even though it’s obviously frustrating when there’s no communication. That can be a bit disappointing....so no longer ask if it makes sense but just make suggestions?
face26 schrieb:
I’m not sure where your accusation towards me is (or if you think I’m accusing you of something). But I’ve been following the thread from the beginning, and when after 19 pages it’s mentioned in passing that everything is already signed off, it’s perfectly reasonable to ask what exactly. The original poster never said that the exterior dimensions were fixed and, for example, also tried working with a different building volume.
So it’s fair to ask whether that is still possible at all.I don’t understand your problem either.
Please read post #110...
That was a reasonable answer to your question, “Why is there still planning going on if everything has already been signed off?”
Because changes can still be made.
face26 schrieb:
...so no longer ask whether it makes sense but just make suggestions?That’s not really the point.
Aside from that: everyone knows that @kaho674 also likes to make suggestions sometimes, even when the original posters say: stop, we need to reflect.
She has a lot of patience
Patience that I personally don’t understand. I tend to leave more quickly.
ypg schrieb:
I still don’t understand your issue.
Please read post #110...
That was a reasonable answer to your question “Why should planning still be done if the contract is already signed.”
Because there are still things that can be changed.And I would like to know from the original poster to what extent things can actually be changed. You yourself say not all general contractors are as flexible as yours.
There is a difference whether the original poster says the building structure is fixed and wants to focus only on the floor plan, or if they say that the external dimensions, shape, etc. are still flexible... if you took it that way, then we interpreted it differently.
face26 schrieb:
There is a difference between the original poster saying the building structure is fixed and asking to focus only on the floor plan, or saying that the exterior dimensions, shape, etc., are still flexible... if you interpreted it that way, you understood it differently than I did.Then please read posts ##1, 9, and 25... (I hope I remembered the right posts; there was one in between where general satisfaction was also mentioned).
I probably gave up there too, because I didn’t see that more than a few walls being moved was accepted.
We often read more into things than the original poster actually writes.
I do as well. It’s often frustrating but a personal risk.
Here, I want to defend @Bauherrin92. Even though we know that defects often cannot be fixed just by moving walls, but require work on the house itself.
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