ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
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Bauherrin9229 Jan 2019 00:27Thank you all for your contributions:
Of course, the space should not be as extreme as it is in our house now; wider is naturally better. Yes, I realize that 17 sqm (183 sq ft) for a bedroom just isn’t working at all.
I’m ready.
Not left out, just initially "overlooked" with all the drafting going on. Thanks for the reminder! I definitely have to discuss that with my husband, but it actually doesn’t seem worth it.
I’ve discarded the 9 x 11 m (30 x 36 ft) exterior dimension again... Moving the staircase → bigger bathroom (great) → smaller kids’ rooms (okay) → but the bedroom is even worse than before, although bigger, it’s really awkwardly shaped and the walk-in closet still doesn’t work.
I will now try to change the original scale; relocating the staircase is unavoidable, I have come to terms with it and will give it a try.
@kaho674
Thank you for your effort despite being unwell.
We received a similar design from another general contractor. What bothers me personally: the front door "runs away" from the garage... I want to get into the house quickly when it’s raining. Also, from an exterior design perspective... not really my style... Garage, window, light band, door. I hope someone understands what I mean.
I really like the corner with the terrace, but I think it will be more expensive than an almost square house.
The cloakroom looks great! That way it makes sense, and the walk-in closet upstairs is also very nicely designed.
ypg schrieb:
But you’re getting older and eventually want to have the side of the bed to sit on. And you need more space there.
You don’t have to become senile for that
Right now, your bedroom’s square meters are exactly where they shouldn’t be.
A bedroom measuring 4 x 3 is not the same as 3 x 4.
If anything, the bed would have to be rotated, and the window moved to the other exterior wall...
Of course, the space should not be as extreme as it is in our house now; wider is naturally better. Yes, I realize that 17 sqm (183 sq ft) for a bedroom just isn’t working at all.
ypg schrieb:
We recently had a house plan of 10 x 9.5 where the utility room and office still had to go into the ground floor... somehow it worked out in the end. But that was also weeks of work and very exhausting for the original poster.
I’m ready.
Zaba12 schrieb:
Don’t leave out the note about the lifting station!
Not left out, just initially "overlooked" with all the drafting going on. Thanks for the reminder! I definitely have to discuss that with my husband, but it actually doesn’t seem worth it.
face26 schrieb:
Maybe it came out differently... I’m curious and will wait to see what ideas come up.
In my opinion, moving the staircase could be a good start.
I’ve discarded the 9 x 11 m (30 x 36 ft) exterior dimension again... Moving the staircase → bigger bathroom (great) → smaller kids’ rooms (okay) → but the bedroom is even worse than before, although bigger, it’s really awkwardly shaped and the walk-in closet still doesn’t work.
I will now try to change the original scale; relocating the staircase is unavoidable, I have come to terms with it and will give it a try.
@kaho674
Thank you for your effort despite being unwell.
We received a similar design from another general contractor. What bothers me personally: the front door "runs away" from the garage... I want to get into the house quickly when it’s raining. Also, from an exterior design perspective... not really my style... Garage, window, light band, door. I hope someone understands what I mean.
I really like the corner with the terrace, but I think it will be more expensive than an almost square house.
The cloakroom looks great! That way it makes sense, and the walk-in closet upstairs is also very nicely designed.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Regarding unused square meters: We fill all rooms quite well with our furniture; only the hallway has some “empty” space.I don’t mean open areas, but unused square meters in the sense of space without living quality, size without a perceived increase in room.Bauherrin92 schrieb:
The 3 m (10 feet) building setback on the right by the sidewalk must also be respected by the garage.See #23, the grey area is the garage.Bauherrin92 schrieb:
In our current apartment, we have 56 cm (22 inches) of walking space around the bed. Some might find that restrictive; we do not at all.You’re okay with taking on a six-figure loan for zero improvement in status?A small bedroom area means a small room volume means (you don’t like mechanical ventilation, after all) faster air depletion means less restorative sleep, “grey” blood / tired / sluggish ... and all that just for minimizing floor space in a house where otherwise a lot of space lies unused :-(
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Bauherrin92 schrieb:
What bothers me personally: the front door "runs away" from the garage... when it’s raining, I want to get inside quickly. The front door and the stairs could still be swapped if that helps.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Also visually from the outside... not my style... garage, window, strip window, door. I hope someone understands what I mean Uh, no. Strip window? Where exactly? The windows here were just quickly placed on. This is a rough sketch without fine tuning. There’s definitely room for improvement visually. You could also play around with offsetting the walls here and there. But whatever.
Fundamentally, the question is what you want to do with the space between the garage and the house. It will always be around 2.5 to 3.5 meters (8 to 11.5 feet). Since the garage blocks the sunlight, it’s too narrow to actually bring in light. It’s also quite unattractive to just have the garage wall right there when looking from the house.
Maybe you could create a nice wooden covered walkway and place the entrance underneath it. Something like this:
But without anything at all, I really think the gap looks awkward.
ypg schrieb:
Lie down and rest.Lie down? Ha, constantly and all the time. *sniff* It's getting better, though. Thanks.
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