ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
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Bauherrin9228 Jan 2019 10:49Zaba12 schrieb:
Just something to think about:
- A pantry without direct access from the kitchen is not really a pantry, but rather a storage room. So, a direct connection should be created. Otherwise, the pantry has no added value.
- The master bedroom is too small. With 3.16m (10 ft 4 in) minus 2x2m (6 ft 7 in x 6 ft 7 in), there is only 58cm (23 inches) of walkway left. My PC keyboard is almost that wide.
- The hallway is as large as the kitchen. So I assume the hallway, besides the kitchen, is one of your main gathering areas in the house, right?
- The storage room, after deducting a cabinet plus baseboard, is only about 80cm (31 inches) wide?
Just based on these four points, I would assume the floor plan should be redone. Especially upstairs, if the bedroom and dressing room are redesigned, many other things will look different.Thank you for your input.
- We have already noted that the pantry access should be from the kitchen. The pantry is 1.59m (5 ft 2 in) wide — subtracting a 60cm (24 inch) shelf leaves just under 1m (3 ft 3 in). I think that should be enough to fit a wall with shelves.
- The bed in the bedroom will be placed along the longer wall (4.02m / 13 ft 2 in). The furniture shown in the plans will not be exactly as illustrated.
- I fully agree with you about the hallway. It is too large. However, I’m not sure how else it could be designed.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Thank you for the post.
- The pantry access should be from the kitchen, we have already noted that. The pantry is 1.59m (5 feet 3 inches) wide – a 60cm (24 inches) shelf leaves just under 1m (3 feet 3 inches). I think that should be enough to fill one wall with shelves.
- The bed in the bedroom is planned to be placed along the long wall (4.02m / 13 feet 2 inches). The furnishing in the plans won’t be as shown.
- Regarding the corridor, I completely agree with you. It is too large. But I don’t know how else it could be done. What is the purpose of cellar 3? Is a guest bathroom in the cellar planned? If not, it only increases your construction costs. The wall and door alone will probably cost around 2,000-3,000€ plus more expensive tiling work.
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Then you will need to watch the windowsill height in the bedroom. With a standard windowsill height, not every bed will fit. For example, the headboard of our box spring bed is 1.30m (4 feet 3 inches).
@ypg has already shared some thoughts about the T-bathroom.
What ideas have you incorporated there?
And save yourself the cost of a second lift-and-slide door. That’s what we did. We have the exact same measurements. A lift-and-slide door costs €4,400 before tax. Fixed glazing with the same dimensions costs €1,400. You won’t use both at the same time.
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Bauherrin9228 Jan 2019 11:11 What is the reason for Basement 3? Is a guest bathroom planned there? If not, it will only increase your construction costs. Probably around 2,000-3,000 euros for the wall and door plus more complex tiling work.
Then you need to be careful with the window sill height in the bedroom. Not every bed fits with the standard sill height. For example, the headboard of our box spring bed is 1.30m (4 ft 3 in).
@@ypg has already mentioned something about the T-bathroom.
What ideas have you included there?
And save yourself the second lift-and-slide door. That’s what we did. We have the exact same measurements. A lift-and-slide door costs 4,400 euros net. The fixed glazing divided costs 1,400 euros. You won’t be using both at the same time.Yes, Basement 3 is intended as a guest toilet, but it’s not a must.
We have already considered the window sill height and with our bed it shouldn’t be a problem.
We have communicated our wishes, and these plans are the result.
Regarding the second lift-and-slide door, we have also thought about whether it is necessary. But we are not at that planning stage yet; first, the floor plan has to be right.
Therefore, I would like to refer again to my main concern in the opening thread.
- And one more thing, a fireplace without a chimney is impractical.
- If you are planning a controlled ventilation system, you need to include the ductwork from the basement (KG) to the upper floor (OG), meaning up to the roof. This requires approximately 25cm x 75cm (10 inches x 30 inches) of straight vertical space along a wall from the technical room up.
I don’t see that at the moment! So this can’t be realized with the current floor plan.
It was like that with my neighbors. They didn’t want to make any compromises on the floor plan and ended up only being able to install a decentralized ventilation system.
EDIT:
In response to your question: Yes, the overall layout is still not suitable.
- If you are planning a controlled ventilation system, you need to include the ductwork from the basement (KG) to the upper floor (OG), meaning up to the roof. This requires approximately 25cm x 75cm (10 inches x 30 inches) of straight vertical space along a wall from the technical room up.
I don’t see that at the moment! So this can’t be realized with the current floor plan.
It was like that with my neighbors. They didn’t want to make any compromises on the floor plan and ended up only being able to install a decentralized ventilation system.
EDIT:
In response to your question: Yes, the overall layout is still not suitable.
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Bauherrin9228 Jan 2019 11:15Zaba12 schrieb:
- And one more thing, a fireplace without a chimney is pointless.
- If you plan to install a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery, you need to include the ducting from the basement to the upper floor, meaning up to the roof. That is, you need a vertical shaft approximately 25cm x 75cm (10 inches x 30 inches) running straight up along a wall from the utility room.
I don’t see that at the moment! So it cannot be realized with this floor plan.
It was the same with my neighbors. They didn’t want to compromise on the floor plan anymore and ended up only being able to install a decentralized ventilation system.Yes, you’re right, that wasn’t drawn in.
Probably a silly question, but what exactly is a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery?
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Yes, you're right, that wasn’t included in the plans.
Probably a silly question, but what is controlled residential ventilation? A ventilation systemSimilar topics