ᐅ First Floor Plan for a Single-Family House – Your Ideas Including the Plot
Created on: 11 Jan 2019 21:48
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MRN2018Hello everyone,
We are still quite early in the process and hope to summarize everything important for you. We are looking forward to your ideas, especially regarding the best way to position the house including a garage or carport (currently undecided due to cost) on the plot to minimize the space needed for driveway and yard. The house can be freely placed on the property, respecting the standard 3-meter (10 ft) setback. We have already visited a few general contractors and received one proposal so far. We weren’t quite satisfied with it and have made some adjustments ourselves. We have attached a rough sketch of our idea for you. Windows have not yet been considered. So far, the suggestions from the contractors have been limited, especially regarding the basic placement. We would like to enter further discussions with more precise floor plan ideas and hope for some input from you.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1040 sqm (11,200 sq ft)
Slope: 3 meters (10 ft) rise across the entire plot
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries:
Edge development: garage or carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation
Maximum height/limits
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: with basement and 1.5 - 2 floors (depending on what makes sense)
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 baby
Space requirements:
Ground floor: living-dining area, kitchen with pantry, study, guest bathroom, storage under stairs
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, master bedroom with walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guest overnight stays per year: not relevant
Open or closed layout: rather open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: cooking island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: preference for a double garage with storage room—ideally with direct access to the house. However, due to the shape of the land, this might be difficult. For cost reasons, a carport with adjoining storage room is also conceivable.
Utility garden, greenhouse: both
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, with explanations for preferences: fireplace as a "divider" between dining and living areas
House design
Origin of the plan: our own and the general contractor’s
What do you like most? Why?
Ground floor: kitchen area is not visible from the living room, separation of living/dining areas by fireplace, relatively spacious living room, guest bathroom shower not directly visible from the door, bright study room, stairway is a half-landing design and not immediately next to the front door.
Upper floor: equally sized children’s rooms, T-shaped bathroom layout, walk-in closet not directly visible from the bedroom door.
What do you dislike? Why?
The hallway is uninspired, and when room doors are open, one can look directly from the front door into the living room. Overall, the floor plan still feels incomplete.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: –
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 350,000
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you have to compromise on details/extra features
- What you can give up:
* Basement (but then a suitable technical room would need to be included on the ground floor. The idea here is to simply attach the garage directly and locate the technical room—including a windbreak area—between the garage and house.)
* Double garage replaced by carport (each with storage room)
- What you cannot give up:
So, we hope we have covered everything and are very excited to hear your thoughts.
Best regards from the Rhön
We are still quite early in the process and hope to summarize everything important for you. We are looking forward to your ideas, especially regarding the best way to position the house including a garage or carport (currently undecided due to cost) on the plot to minimize the space needed for driveway and yard. The house can be freely placed on the property, respecting the standard 3-meter (10 ft) setback. We have already visited a few general contractors and received one proposal so far. We weren’t quite satisfied with it and have made some adjustments ourselves. We have attached a rough sketch of our idea for you. Windows have not yet been considered. So far, the suggestions from the contractors have been limited, especially regarding the basic placement. We would like to enter further discussions with more precise floor plan ideas and hope for some input from you.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1040 sqm (11,200 sq ft)
Slope: 3 meters (10 ft) rise across the entire plot
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries:
Edge development: garage or carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation
Maximum height/limits
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: with basement and 1.5 - 2 floors (depending on what makes sense)
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 baby
Space requirements:
Ground floor: living-dining area, kitchen with pantry, study, guest bathroom, storage under stairs
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, master bedroom with walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guest overnight stays per year: not relevant
Open or closed layout: rather open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: cooking island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: preference for a double garage with storage room—ideally with direct access to the house. However, due to the shape of the land, this might be difficult. For cost reasons, a carport with adjoining storage room is also conceivable.
Utility garden, greenhouse: both
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, with explanations for preferences: fireplace as a "divider" between dining and living areas
House design
Origin of the plan: our own and the general contractor’s
What do you like most? Why?
Ground floor: kitchen area is not visible from the living room, separation of living/dining areas by fireplace, relatively spacious living room, guest bathroom shower not directly visible from the door, bright study room, stairway is a half-landing design and not immediately next to the front door.
Upper floor: equally sized children’s rooms, T-shaped bathroom layout, walk-in closet not directly visible from the bedroom door.
What do you dislike? Why?
The hallway is uninspired, and when room doors are open, one can look directly from the front door into the living room. Overall, the floor plan still feels incomplete.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: –
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 350,000
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you have to compromise on details/extra features
- What you can give up:
* Basement (but then a suitable technical room would need to be included on the ground floor. The idea here is to simply attach the garage directly and locate the technical room—including a windbreak area—between the garage and house.)
* Double garage replaced by carport (each with storage room)
- What you cannot give up:
So, we hope we have covered everything and are very excited to hear your thoughts.
Best regards from the Rhön
What is the height difference within the building plot?
The 3 meters (10 feet) are definitely not linear.
On a sloped site, you either have to pay a lot for fill or build with a basement (underground level). The basement can be used as full living space. Then you basically build a bungalow on top of the "basement." Depending on where the garden is, the basement could have kitchen, dining, and living areas, with the bedrooms upstairs. (That’s how it is in our case too.)
How does the slope run? Downward from the street or upward?
Where is the terrace planned?
Is your budget including additional construction costs (e.g., permits, fees, connections)?
It would be helpful if your plan was dimensioned.
Draw your desired furniture to scale—complete in all rooms.
Regarding the ground floor:
The pantry is so small that even the freezer doesn’t fit. I would remove it and instead add two more cabinets to the kitchen.
The cloakroom is very small.
Regarding the upper floor:
The bathroom is too narrow for the T-layout.
Is the bathtub or the sinks missing?
The walk-in closet is actually too small. You can fit a wardrobe about 4 meters (13 feet) long, preferably with sliding doors since there isn’t enough depth.
At which general contractor are you?
When do you plan to start building?
Is it roughly facing northeast-southeast?
The 3 meters (10 feet) are definitely not linear.
On a sloped site, you either have to pay a lot for fill or build with a basement (underground level). The basement can be used as full living space. Then you basically build a bungalow on top of the "basement." Depending on where the garden is, the basement could have kitchen, dining, and living areas, with the bedrooms upstairs. (That’s how it is in our case too.)
How does the slope run? Downward from the street or upward?
Where is the terrace planned?
Is your budget including additional construction costs (e.g., permits, fees, connections)?
It would be helpful if your plan was dimensioned.
Draw your desired furniture to scale—complete in all rooms.
Regarding the ground floor:
The pantry is so small that even the freezer doesn’t fit. I would remove it and instead add two more cabinets to the kitchen.
The cloakroom is very small.
Regarding the upper floor:
The bathroom is too narrow for the T-layout.
Is the bathtub or the sinks missing?
The walk-in closet is actually too small. You can fit a wardrobe about 4 meters (13 feet) long, preferably with sliding doors since there isn’t enough depth.
At which general contractor are you?
When do you plan to start building?
Is it roughly facing northeast-southeast?
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boxandroof12 Jan 2019 01:31Our ground floor is almost identical. We have the utility room and guest bathroom where your guest bathroom is located: the staircase and hallway are more central, and the dining area is narrower.
Pantry: there would be enough space for drinks and groceries under a closed staircase opposite the kitchen.
Washing machine and dryer?
Pantry: there would be enough space for drinks and groceries under a closed staircase opposite the kitchen.
Washing machine and dryer?
The same issues stand out to me:
The cloakroom is too small, and the pantry doesn’t make sense for its size.
The bathroom is too small for a T-layout, and I would definitely miss having a bathtub here (also thinking ahead—children usually enjoy baths as well).
I wouldn’t recommend a walk-in closet trapped within the bedroom like that. Try to create a separate access from the hallway. Even if it doesn’t feel inconvenient right now, that can change (different waking or sleeping schedules).
The cloakroom is too small, and the pantry doesn’t make sense for its size.
The bathroom is too small for a T-layout, and I would definitely miss having a bathtub here (also thinking ahead—children usually enjoy baths as well).
I wouldn’t recommend a walk-in closet trapped within the bedroom like that. Try to create a separate access from the hallway. Even if it doesn’t feel inconvenient right now, that can change (different waking or sleeping schedules).
Thank you very much for the detailed response.
The development of the area will not be completed until May, so unfortunately we don’t have more detailed information yet.
The lowest point is at the bottom left directly at the roundabout, the highest point is at the top right (so the slope rises from the street). The 3 meters (10 feet) difference across the entire property doesn’t look like an extreme slope.
Basically, our idea is to build a basement and not fully embed the front of it—this way, for example, the hobby room would still get natural light, and we save on excavation. The soil excavated could then possibly be used to level out the rest of the plot somewhat.
The terrace is planned to face south.
Yes, including additional construction costs but excluding the land.
With this budget and the current sky-high prices, a turnkey build is obviously not possible.
We are considering having a closed shell built first and then doing part of the work ourselves (flooring, painting, interior doors).
We drew the “plan” ourselves, so it’s more of a sketch. Once we have a final plan, we’ll gladly get back to you.
The freezer is not planned for the pantry. The pantry is intended only for food storage.
We are not yet quite sure about the area around the entrance hall, as we don’t know exactly how much space the staircase will actually take and how we can ideally arrange the space.
We decided against having a bathtub and have carefully considered this decision.
We’ll see if we can gain a little more space here or there. It is important that the children’s rooms are large enough; if necessary, the walk-in closet will have to be completely replaced by a wardrobe.
We plan to start as soon as possible after the plot is developed in May.
Yes, we’re building quite near NES.
The main problem is still finding a suitable general contractor.
We have already had several consultation meetings, especially with the big prefab house suppliers. So far, none have been motivated to respond exactly to our requirements (about 80% were mainly focused on finding out our maximum affordable monthly payment and then planning the house accordingly).
For the good providers (in our case, solid construction), waiting times can now sometimes be 1 year or more.
This is partly why we are considering subcontracting individual trades ourselves—even though we are not from the construction industry, you have a lot of time over one year to plan and keep the budget relatively tight at the same time.
haydee schrieb:
What is the height difference within the building plot?
The 3 meters (10 feet) are probably not consistent across the entire area.
If it’s a sloped site, you either have to fill a lot, which can be expensive, or you build with a basement. The basement can be fully livable space. Then you basically build a bungalow on top of the “basement.” Depending on where the garden is, for example, the basement could contain the kitchen, dining, and living areas, with the bedrooms upstairs. (That’s how we do it as well.)
How does the slope run? Down from the street or up?
Where is the terrace planned?
The development of the area will not be completed until May, so unfortunately we don’t have more detailed information yet.
The lowest point is at the bottom left directly at the roundabout, the highest point is at the top right (so the slope rises from the street). The 3 meters (10 feet) difference across the entire property doesn’t look like an extreme slope.
Basically, our idea is to build a basement and not fully embed the front of it—this way, for example, the hobby room would still get natural light, and we save on excavation. The soil excavated could then possibly be used to level out the rest of the plot somewhat.
The terrace is planned to face south.
haydee schrieb:
Is your budget including additional construction costs (e.g. fees, permits, connections)?
Yes, including additional construction costs but excluding the land.
With this budget and the current sky-high prices, a turnkey build is obviously not possible.
We are considering having a closed shell built first and then doing part of the work ourselves (flooring, painting, interior doors).
haydee schrieb:
It would be nice if your plan were dimensioned.
Draw your desired furniture to scale. Complete in all rooms.
We drew the “plan” ourselves, so it’s more of a sketch. Once we have a final plan, we’ll gladly get back to you.
haydee schrieb:
Regarding the ground floor:
The pantry is so small that not even the freezer fits inside. I would remove it and instead give the kitchen two more cabinets.
The freezer is not planned for the pantry. The pantry is intended only for food storage.
haydee schrieb:
The cloakroom is very small.
We are not yet quite sure about the area around the entrance hall, as we don’t know exactly how much space the staircase will actually take and how we can ideally arrange the space.
haydee schrieb:
For the upper floor:
The bathroom is too narrow for the T-shaped layout.
Is the bathtub or the sinks missing?
We decided against having a bathtub and have carefully considered this decision.
haydee schrieb:
The walk-in closet is actually too small. You can fit about a 4-meter (13 feet) wardrobe, preferably with sliding doors due to the lack of depth.
We’ll see if we can gain a little more space here or there. It is important that the children’s rooms are large enough; if necessary, the walk-in closet will have to be completely replaced by a wardrobe.
haydee schrieb:
Which general contractor (GC) are you using?
When do you want to start building?
You’re roughly facing northeast, right?
We plan to start as soon as possible after the plot is developed in May.
Yes, we’re building quite near NES.
The main problem is still finding a suitable general contractor.
We have already had several consultation meetings, especially with the big prefab house suppliers. So far, none have been motivated to respond exactly to our requirements (about 80% were mainly focused on finding out our maximum affordable monthly payment and then planning the house accordingly).
For the good providers (in our case, solid construction), waiting times can now sometimes be 1 year or more.
This is partly why we are considering subcontracting individual trades ourselves—even though we are not from the construction industry, you have a lot of time over one year to plan and keep the budget relatively tight at the same time.
Without having looked at the floor plan in detail, I am more concerned about your budget than the layout.
How many square meters is it? 150?
150 square meters plus a basement, including additional construction costs and fittings? Like the kitchen, etc.? In Bavaria for 350,000? Including extras like a fireplace? On a sloped plot?
I’m doubtful... maybe @Zaba12 has some comments on this. Perhaps in a different part of Bavaria, but if I remember correctly, that was a smaller build, less slope, no major extras, and well above your budget!
How many square meters is it? 150?
150 square meters plus a basement, including additional construction costs and fittings? Like the kitchen, etc.? In Bavaria for 350,000? Including extras like a fireplace? On a sloped plot?
I’m doubtful... maybe @Zaba12 has some comments on this. Perhaps in a different part of Bavaria, but if I remember correctly, that was a smaller build, less slope, no major extras, and well above your budget!
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