ᐅ Is a Gas Condensing Boiler a Practical Choice for New Single-Family Homes Under the 2016 Energy Saving Regulation?

Something that hasn’t been mentioned yet: often, inexpensive air-to-water heat pumps are installed with a rather loud outdoor heat exchanger. In summer, this is usually not a problem, as there is enough heat in the environment to extract and generally little heating is needed. However, during transitional seasons, the noise can become a disturbance. By the way, this is also a common source of ongoing neighborhood disputes in densely populated residential areas when someone can no longer sleep with the window open because of the neighbor’s heat exchanger unit.

Hehe, I didn’t mean to start a debate here. But we should keep things factual.

@Mycraft: Whenever it suits Putin, he just turns up the gas supply, or he threatens to do so—if only to pressure the transit countries. This has happened several times already.

@Caspar2020: The problem isn’t the transit route, but the supplier of the gas. Once Europe becomes sufficiently dependent, prices can be dictated at will. We will see how that unfolds.

@Nordlys: Why so intense? Bigotry is clearly defined and doesn’t apply to me at all. In Thuringia, almost two-thirds of electricity is already generated locally. Isn’t that a good alternative considering the increasing number of irrational actors in governments worldwide? And besides: If Schleswig-Holstein has several nuclear power plants, there’s no need to import “bad” nuclear power from France and you can rely on the “good” northern German supply. But I’ll leave it here; have fun with the Russian gas. :-)

P.S. I’m not green, red, blue, or anything else...

berny schrieb:
@Caspar2020: The issue is not the transit route, but the supplier of the gas. Once Europe becomes sufficiently dependent, prices can be set freely. We will see what happens.

Last year, 40% came from Russia. In the 1980s, it was even 50% from the USSR.

Germany is one of the largest customers. If Putin now tightens the supply, some other market players will benefit (especially the USA with their shale gas).

These markets are not always easy to view in black and white. It would be different if Russia were the sole supplier of the resource.

berny schrieb:
Whenever it suits Putin, he just turns the gas valve. Or he threatens to do so; if only to bully the transit countries. This has happened several times already. The problem isn’t the transit route, but the origin of the gas. Once Europe becomes sufficiently dependent, prices can be dictated as they please. We’ll see.

There are still people where public broadcasting’s opinion propaganda finds fertile ground? “Opinion” because none of your points can be remotely supported by facts.

Or did Germany experience a gas supply problem or a noticeable price increase during the last Ukraine crisis? Strange, considering how much was written and said about it. But let me guess: Trump is a very bad guy too? And Brexit severely harms the economy… because then everyone continues to trade, produce, and consume as usual? Since exactly zero has changed in the trade relations between Germany and the UK over the last 50 years.

But now we’re definitely drifting off-topic, so let’s leave it at that.

Yes, that’s exactly how it is. Mr. Putin will be very cautious with Germany regarding gas and oil. That’s just the way it is. You don’t upset a major customer. The various crises in the neighboring problem countries were precisely the reason for building the new pipelines here—to always keep the best customer satisfied and independent from any neighborhood disputes, ensuring steady deliveries.

And if Mr. Putin does decide to shut off the supply to Germany (which is highly unlikely, in the range of a fraction of a percent), we still have the big brother mentioned earlier with his liquefied natural gas, who would be eager to send out the tankers.

But yes, back on topic...