ᐅ Feedback on Single-Family Home Floor Plan – 200 m² Urban Villa with Hipped Roof
Created on: 28 Dec 2018 15:03
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Seb0907
Hello everyone,
I am currently deep in the planning phase for our single-family home, a townhouse villa type, with construction scheduled to start next spring/summer. To avoid any blind spots in the planning process—if not already the case—I would really appreciate your opinions on the current status and any suggestions you might have. I have attached the floor plan along with a visualization and want to thank you in advance for your feedback!
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
- Plot size: 660 m² (7,104 sq ft)
- Slope: No
- Floor area ratio (FAR) / Site occupancy index: 0.35 / 0.7
- Building envelope, building line, and boundary: See plan
- Edge development: Allowed (border garage)
- Number of parking spaces: Minimum 2
- Number of floors: Maximum 2
- Roof pitch: 0 – 45°
- Architectural style: No specifications
- Orientation: No specifications
- Maximum height / limits: 7 m (23 ft)
- Other requirements: None
Homeowners’ Requirements
- Style, roof shape, building type: Townhouse villa with hipped roof (18°)
- Basement, number of floors: No basement, two full floors
- Number of occupants, age: 2 (33/30)
- Required living space on ground floor and upper floor: About 100 m² (1,076 sq ft)
- Office use: Family use and partial home office, hence the size
- Overnight guests per year: 1 - 4
- Open or closed layout: Open
- Conservative or modern style: Modern
- Open kitchen, kitchen island: Open kitchen with cooking or half kitchen island
- Number of dining seats: 2 - 6
- Fireplace: Yes
- Music/stereo wall: No
- Balcony, roof terrace: No
- Garage, carport: Double garage
- Utility garden, greenhouse: No
House Design
- Planning by: Own design
- What do you particularly like? Why? See below
- What do you not like? Why? See below
- Cost estimate according to architect/designer: €415,000 excluding land
- Preferred heating system: Heat pump with ventilation system
If you have to compromise, on which details/expansions
- You can compromise on: Various room sizes/arrangements
- You cannot compromise on: Almost everything listed under “what I like”
Why does the design look like it does now?
Personal taste (townhouse villa, open design), plot requirements (orientation and positioning), and external advice (planning for closets, etc.).
What I like:
The most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters
I am primarily looking for your assessment/feedback on the floor plan and welcome constructive points, suggestions, or ideas I might have missed due to “planning bias,” including your thoughts on what I don’t like.
I am currently deep in the planning phase for our single-family home, a townhouse villa type, with construction scheduled to start next spring/summer. To avoid any blind spots in the planning process—if not already the case—I would really appreciate your opinions on the current status and any suggestions you might have. I have attached the floor plan along with a visualization and want to thank you in advance for your feedback!
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
- Plot size: 660 m² (7,104 sq ft)
- Slope: No
- Floor area ratio (FAR) / Site occupancy index: 0.35 / 0.7
- Building envelope, building line, and boundary: See plan
- Edge development: Allowed (border garage)
- Number of parking spaces: Minimum 2
- Number of floors: Maximum 2
- Roof pitch: 0 – 45°
- Architectural style: No specifications
- Orientation: No specifications
- Maximum height / limits: 7 m (23 ft)
- Other requirements: None
Homeowners’ Requirements
- Style, roof shape, building type: Townhouse villa with hipped roof (18°)
- Basement, number of floors: No basement, two full floors
- Number of occupants, age: 2 (33/30)
- Required living space on ground floor and upper floor: About 100 m² (1,076 sq ft)
- Office use: Family use and partial home office, hence the size
- Overnight guests per year: 1 - 4
- Open or closed layout: Open
- Conservative or modern style: Modern
- Open kitchen, kitchen island: Open kitchen with cooking or half kitchen island
- Number of dining seats: 2 - 6
- Fireplace: Yes
- Music/stereo wall: No
- Balcony, roof terrace: No
- Garage, carport: Double garage
- Utility garden, greenhouse: No
House Design
- Planning by: Own design
- What do you particularly like? Why? See below
- What do you not like? Why? See below
- Cost estimate according to architect/designer: €415,000 excluding land
- Preferred heating system: Heat pump with ventilation system
If you have to compromise, on which details/expansions
- You can compromise on: Various room sizes/arrangements
- You cannot compromise on: Almost everything listed under “what I like”
Why does the design look like it does now?
Personal taste (townhouse villa, open design), plot requirements (orientation and positioning), and external advice (planning for closets, etc.).
What I like:
- General placement of all rooms on the plot: Bedroom away from the street on the east side (sunrise); living area set back from the street; office with a large window facing west (sunset side)
- Clear, uninterrupted view from the entrance area all the way to the garden
- Exterior design of the house
- Garage roof covering with space for trash bins near the street
- Integration of the kitchen unit and tall kitchen cabinets in the floor plan
- Extra room on the ground floor for guests, utility, and due to its size, potential as a full bedroom on the ground floor later
- Garage access from inside via the entrance area (“dirty zone” vs. “clean zone”)
- Central placement of the fireplace
- Pre-planned integration of household cupboards/closets into niches on both floors (space under the stairs should also be accessible)
- Laundry chute access from both the dressing room and bathroom
- Bright, open, spacious corridor on the upper floor with a window
- Central staircase location
- Offset dining table relative to the kitchen island due to walkway width near the fireplace; it’s “okay” but requires walking around. Having the table directly opposite would be nicer.
- The bathroom is generally fine, but I am not happy with the door position and the corner, even though the corner probably won't be very visible as the door won’t fully open 90°, and the walkway is wide enough. However, I don’t see where I could take space from without negatively affecting the position of the stairs or chimney and thus compromising the generally good room and circulation sizes in the entrance, living room, dressing room, or bedroom.
- “Tunnel” effect in the doorway area of children’s room 1
The most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters
I am primarily looking for your assessment/feedback on the floor plan and welcome constructive points, suggestions, or ideas I might have missed due to “planning bias,” including your thoughts on what I don’t like.
11ant schrieb:
Why do you see them as necessarily shifting?It is the reason for the shape of the hallway and its "turns."
Seb0907 schrieb:
Ultimately, as ypg already mentioned before, it’s a matter of personal taste. But of course it still concerns me. I definitely did not say that.
Although that is partly true (I also have a house that not everyone likes and has features that are uncommon), there are still certain rules that apply to every house (for example, you need a toilet).
And then there are fixed elements, things that evolve with the house, and things that are handled more individually.
Here, a) is the entrance, which cannot accommodate guests. Especially now that we have been having visitors more often again, you have to say that greetings and farewells happen outside the door, one person stays standing and waits for the other. The family stays inside, others want to leave, kisses, hugs, someone forgot something, has to go back in... this simply doesn’t work here!
b) The garage access, which I have already addressed in a separate thread. It takes up square meters, but also causes a lot of space to be used inefficiently.
You do not get wet every day! It does not rain every day when you arrive on the property. There’s no need to lie or distort the truth—the majority of these claims are ridiculous.
I just checked c) again: I have to navigate four corners when arriving home. If the baby is still carried in the car seat, the walls suffer.
I don’t find it cozy or comfortable… and I can still think in 3D.
Everyone wants to take 2-3 steps inside from the front door first, put down their handbag and shopping bags, take off shoes and coat, then unload the groceries in the kitchen and enjoy being home.
Here, d) I turn away from a cozy home atmosphere because I have to walk from the entrance toward the garage. That alone wouldn’t be worth mentioning if it weren’t for the fact that it’s a corridor bent twice so that e) you don’t know what’s lurking around the corner… that’s just how it is. People feel uneasy walking through a corridor that they cannot see through.
When a family of four comes inside from outside and wants to get to the wardrobe, it gets crowded.
When guests visit, they have to go to a utility area of the house to use the WC.
Yes, a matter of taste…
Even an overnight guest has to pass by the front door…
Impractical.
So, now you can see one of the many negative features of your hallway.
It may be that many things are a matter of taste in principle. Many don’t like a staircase in the dining area. I don’t mind. But I have to live with the limitations. Without children, it’s okay.
However, many things are not a matter of taste, but functional or not.
Many homeowners must rely on standard solutions due to costs, contractor requirements, or lack of creativity—solutions that are acceptable but could be improved.
Here you can really get creative to make everything practical, so go ahead.
P.S. By the way, Kaho is right about the line of sight. We have the same situation—that’s how it turned out with our 140 sqm (1500 sq ft), but if I had 20 sqm (215 sq ft) more, it wouldn’t be the case that the incoming energy (CHI) immediately flows right back out at the rear of the house.
It’s about having a view axis focused on something that makes you curious about the space (inviting), without revealing anything about the occupants.
Maybe you could try rotating the staircase. The fireplace could probably fit underneath it.
Something like this (sketch! Staircase without a landing – software glitch):
However, I can’t separate the walk-in closet from the bedroom with an internal staircase. But at least it’s separated from the children’s room, has a window, and is generously sized.
If you could do without natural light in the hallway, a small utility room for the washing machine could also fit in.
Something like this (sketch! Staircase without a landing – software glitch):
However, I can’t separate the walk-in closet from the bedroom with an internal staircase. But at least it’s separated from the children’s room, has a window, and is generously sized.
If you could do without natural light in the hallway, a small utility room for the washing machine could also fit in.
kaho674 schrieb:
Something like this No. I usually like your suggestions, and this design may offer some objective improvements, but it also removes some of the original’s unique character. I don’t see the space here being so limited that I would support a more economical staircase layout. Unfortunately, you kept the office projection, which I would have preferred to remove from the roofline.
And as always, ceterum censeo: the porch between the house and the garage can go; we don’t need it.
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11ant schrieb:
No. Normally, I usually like your suggestions... You’re good. It’s clear you have little experience dealing with clients. Suggestions are not made for the audience, but for the person who pays.
Accordingly, the exterior dimensions were adopted exactly as given.
kaho674 schrieb:
You’re good. Yes, but also quite full of yourself already
kaho674 schrieb:
You can tell you have little experience dealing with clients. Good joke.
kaho674 schrieb:
You don’t make suggestions for the audience, but for the one who pays. When did the original poster say: "Make my design more economical, and in return you get to take away its originality"?
kaho674 schrieb:
Accordingly, the exterior dimensions were taken 1:1. That’s exactly what I mean: I can hardly recognize the original design here just by the outline :-(
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11ant schrieb:
When did the original poster say: "Make my design more economical, and in return, you can take away its originality"? Thies, what are you rambling about? I don’t want to make the design more economical. It’s solely about enlarging the entrance area, since that was a main point of criticism from many. I suggested he try rotating the staircase, which might make it easier, and I even made a sketch (specifically mentioned) so he knows what I mean. If he prefers angled edges or staircases, that’s secondary for now.
And he clearly says twice that he would like suggestions:
Seb0907 schrieb:
...I would really appreciate your opinions on the current status and any suggestions...
...I am happy to receive constructive points/suggestions or ideas that I might not notice due to my “planning blindness,” and also some feedback on the points I’m not so happy with...No one is forcing him to follow it.
The year is starting off well with you.
Happy New Year, by the way!
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