ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
@ypg
Do you already know the exact position of the 2m (6.6 ft) line? Considering this low knee wall, it should be about 2m (6.6 ft) from the outermost exterior wall, right?
The windows should be roughly here. The original poster measured about 2.17m (7.1 ft) from the interior wall on the south side and around 2m (6.6 ft) on the north side, correct?
Do you already know the exact position of the 2m (6.6 ft) line? Considering this low knee wall, it should be about 2m (6.6 ft) from the outermost exterior wall, right?
The windows should be roughly here. The original poster measured about 2.17m (7.1 ft) from the interior wall on the south side and around 2m (6.6 ft) on the north side, correct?
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pffreestyler4 Dec 2018 08:10Regarding the knee wall, I had given incorrect information out of ignorance. I think it’s clear here that there is actually a small knee wall present.
I measured this on the 1:100 scale section drawing, with a 10cm (4 inches) floor buildup already included. The window position is incorrect on the section! You have to rely on the measurements I took.
I think I can see that the 1m (3 ft) and 2m (6 ft) lines on your floor plans could be moved slightly further outwards?!
From the floor plans, I would like a mix of both proposals. Maybe swap the shower and toilet in ypg’s suggestion and then move the wall slightly to the north; remove the closet space from the left children’s bedroom and instead make a small storage room there? I would find this useful for things like a vacuum cleaner. To compensate, move the partition wall between the children’s bedrooms a little to the right, so that a wardrobe fits on the wall in the left children’s bedroom. The desk can be moved further to the left. The right children’s bedroom could receive the lower closet space from the master bedroom as compensation.
I measured this on the 1:100 scale section drawing, with a 10cm (4 inches) floor buildup already included. The window position is incorrect on the section! You have to rely on the measurements I took.
I think I can see that the 1m (3 ft) and 2m (6 ft) lines on your floor plans could be moved slightly further outwards?!
From the floor plans, I would like a mix of both proposals. Maybe swap the shower and toilet in ypg’s suggestion and then move the wall slightly to the north; remove the closet space from the left children’s bedroom and instead make a small storage room there? I would find this useful for things like a vacuum cleaner. To compensate, move the partition wall between the children’s bedrooms a little to the right, so that a wardrobe fits on the wall in the left children’s bedroom. The desk can be moved further to the left. The right children’s bedroom could receive the lower closet space from the master bedroom as compensation.
Tell me, what do you want to do with the rooms downstairs if you squeeze everything upstairs?
Try to treat both children’s rooms equally. It’s not acceptable if one gets an American-style closet and the other doesn’t.
The vacuum cleaner can also be stored in the bedroom.
What are the rooms on the ground floor still for?
Try to treat both children’s rooms equally. It’s not acceptable if one gets an American-style closet and the other doesn’t.
The vacuum cleaner can also be stored in the bedroom.
What are the rooms on the ground floor still for?
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pffreestyler4 Dec 2018 08:24Valid point that it is fair to make both children's rooms the same.
The vacuum cleaner could go in the bedroom. Maybe we should reconsider the storage room after all.
The idea is that my clothes stay downstairs in the bedroom and I also use the downstairs bathroom in the morning. Currently, we also keep our clothes in separate rooms because I have to get up earlier, so we don’t wake each other up when one of us can still sleep.
The vacuum cleaner could go in the bedroom. Maybe we should reconsider the storage room after all.
The idea is that my clothes stay downstairs in the bedroom and I also use the downstairs bathroom in the morning. Currently, we also keep our clothes in separate rooms because I have to get up earlier, so we don’t wake each other up when one of us can still sleep.
ypg schrieb:
I drew everything according to the original poster’s specifications. This is really frustrating.
If I look at the cross-section image from the original poster, the roof overhangs the exterior wall. The 45° angle therefore starts just a few centimeters before the outer wall. Accordingly, the 2m (6 ft 7 in) limit should theoretically be around 2m (6 ft 7 in) because of the 45° roof pitch. It might even fall slightly below 2m (6 ft 7 in), but the insulation will make a difference, I think. We probably will never know the exact value.
pffreestyler schrieb:
The window position in the section is incorrect! You have to rely on my measured dimensions. Oh, great.
pffreestyler schrieb:
I would like a mix of both floor plans. Yeah, that’s just what we need. Another wishlist.
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