ᐅ Single-sided or double-sided fireplace

Created on: 12 Nov 2018 09:56
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chrisw81
Dear forum members,

I am planning to build a single-family house and would like to have a masonry fireplace installed.

The fireplace will be placed between the living and dining areas. The chimney location is already fixed. The fireplace will be positioned next to the chimney and, depending on whether it is single-sided or double-sided, it will extend further into the room (see pictures).

I am generally okay with a single-sided fireplace, but I am unsure if I would have a good angled view of the glass from the sofa. That’s why I am considering an L-shaped fireplace, which allows a good angled view. This would almost act like a room divider, as it will probably extend about 80cm (31 inches) into the room.

What do you think about these ideas, or what would look better in your opinion?
Thanks!

Detaillierter 2D-Hausgrundriss mit Wohn-, Ess- und Kochbereich, Treppe und Eingang.


Detaillierter Grundriss eines Hauses mit offenem Wohnbereich, Küche und Treppe
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chrisw81
12 Nov 2018 11:30
Aliban2014 schrieb:
edit:

You don't necessarily need a room-air-independent insert. We also won’t get the pressure monitor for that.

The chimney installers we have consulted so far said that we need a room-air-independent chimney (probably also because of our LAS chimney).
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Aliban2014
12 Nov 2018 11:38
chrisw81 schrieb:
The chimney builders we have consulted so far said that we need an RLU chimney system (probably because of our LAS chimney)...

I'm not an expert, but I find that hard to believe since the LAS is supposed to ensure that no window in the room needs to be opened. This is regardless of the heating insert and air pressure issues.

Are you planning to have a mechanical ventilation system for the living space? If not, according to our chimney sweep, neither a certified heating insert nor a pressure monitor is required (assuming an open kitchen and an exhaust hood vented outside without a contact switch).

Please contact your local chimney sweep and ask about the connection between the LAS and a certified heating insert. They perform the inspection of the heating appliance, so their opinion is crucial for you.

A certified heating insert does limit your options significantly, as you’ve probably already noticed.

The chimney builders should have provided measurements of how much the chimneys would protrude into the room, right?
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Domski
12 Nov 2018 11:48
chrisw81 schrieb:
What’s the point of having a small glass panel if you can’t see any of the fire?

Counter-question: What good is the stove if I have to get completely naked by the third log?

Everyone has to answer both questions for themselves and hopefully choose the right product.
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ypg
12 Nov 2018 12:25
I also like stoves, know the issues, and have to say that for a 40sqm (430 sq ft) room, the output definitely needs to be carefully considered. In other words, the room is too small for a stove if it is an energy-saving regulation house (which it is). But in that case, I would turn it into a slim room divider, so that at least it serves a purpose when not in use.
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Lumpi_LE
12 Nov 2018 12:26
A properly sized fireplace works very well in a low-energy house. However, we have a small glass panel and a lot of firebrick around it for thermal mass. It should be clear that a fireplace, even if you get the wood for free, is never cost-effective.
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chrisw81
12 Nov 2018 13:11
Aliban2014 schrieb:

Are you planning to install a mechanical ventilation system? If not, according to our chimney sweep, neither a certified firebox nor a pressure monitor is required (provided there is an open kitchen and the extractor hood vents outside without a contact switch).

Please contact your local chimney sweep and ask about the connection between the combustion air system and a certified firebox. They carry out the inspection of the heating appliance, so their statement is decisive for you.

The stove installers should have already provided measurements for how far the chimneys will extend into the room, right?
Yes, we will probably have a mechanical ventilation system as well (still waiting for the quote).

The chimney sweep said I should choose a stove and then show it to him. I might just pick one with a recirculating air system and one with a room air supply, and see what he says.

The stove will protrude about 80 cm (31 inches) into the room with two-sided opening; with one-sided opening, significantly less (40 cm (16 inches)).