ᐅ Safe room in an older building: security expert for older buildings wanted
Created on: 10 Nov 2018 13:50
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Steven
Hello
I am facing a challenge:
An old building is to be upgraded for extreme security.
Windows that are truly secure. What protection class is available for that?
Doors accordingly.
And preferably a complete lockdown of the upper floor—essentially a large panic room.
An architect is involved. He is experienced with old houses, but probably less so with security.
Budget is not the top priority. I understand that upgrading will not be cheap.
Does anyone know a company or specialist familiar with mechanical security upgrades?
Steven
I am facing a challenge:
An old building is to be upgraded for extreme security.
Windows that are truly secure. What protection class is available for that?
Doors accordingly.
And preferably a complete lockdown of the upper floor—essentially a large panic room.
An architect is involved. He is experienced with old houses, but probably less so with security.
Budget is not the top priority. I understand that upgrading will not be cheap.
Does anyone know a company or specialist familiar with mechanical security upgrades?
Steven
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Obstlerbaum10 Nov 2018 16:52No problem – but it won’t be aesthetic or cheap. A lot of reinforced concrete, all in RC6, should be enough. Just: why? Take the gold bars to the bank and park the Bugatti in the garage...
I believe this is not about what might be practical or creating a large safe for valuables, but rather about satisfying an individual security need.
Anyone willing to invest this much money and make (almost) no compromises has likely had extremely bad experiences.
Surely Steven knows that there are other ways to store valuables.
We don’t know the details about what exactly needs to be secured or approximately where it is located.
Therefore, it’s best to approach the questions openly.
With the current information, I wouldn’t go for it either, but rather invest in good physical protection (RC3) plus security systems and insurance, instead of immediately aiming for RC5 or RC6.
We are currently in the planning phase as well and have discussed the security concept extensively. In the end, we decided against an excessively extreme level of protection. However, we don’t have any real Picassos or similar art on display, nor are we public figures, etc.
Anyone willing to invest this much money and make (almost) no compromises has likely had extremely bad experiences.
Surely Steven knows that there are other ways to store valuables.
We don’t know the details about what exactly needs to be secured or approximately where it is located.
Therefore, it’s best to approach the questions openly.
With the current information, I wouldn’t go for it either, but rather invest in good physical protection (RC3) plus security systems and insurance, instead of immediately aiming for RC5 or RC6.
We are currently in the planning phase as well and have discussed the security concept extensively. In the end, we decided against an excessively extreme level of protection. However, we don’t have any real Picassos or similar art on display, nor are we public figures, etc.
rick2018 schrieb:
Sealing off at the top is basically possible. Just treat it like an external shell.
I assume there is a staircase with a separate door? Execute these and the windows accordingly, possibly reinforce walls and floors, plus cameras and sensors.Wrong forum. This is about living spaces, not isolation cells 😀
Jokes aside: it won’t feel comfortable. I would actually recommend therapy for this... paranoia.
Bookstar schrieb:
May I know the reason? Hello Bookstar,
of course!
It concerns an older house that is listed as a historic building. It is to be converted into a protected area without compromising its aesthetic value. Larger modifications are planned even aside from this protection. As part of this "renovation," security needs will also be enhanced. In addition to electronic and optical security systems, doors and windows, and possibly exterior walls, will be made as burglar-resistant as possible. The upper floor should be able to be sealed off from the lower floor, also without affecting the appearance.
It is clear that a significant amount of money will be invested in this.
Steven
Steven schrieb:
Hello Bookstar
Of course!
This concerns an older house that is protected as a historic building. It is to be converted into a secure area without compromising the aesthetics. Larger modifications are planned even aside from this protection. As part of this renovation, the security needs should also be improved. In addition to electronic and optical security measures, doors and windows, and possibly exterior walls, will be made as burglar-resistant as possible. The upper floor should be lockable from the lower floor as well. All this without affecting the appearance.
It’s clear that quite a bit of money will be invested in this.
Steven The historic building protection—if it involves more than just the facade—will likely complicate things for you.
Apart from that, I fully agree with ypg.
This is not mentally healthy behavior. Schizophrenia?