ᐅ New construction after the birth of triplets. Looking forward to your ideas.
Created on: 23 Sep 2018 21:07
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Hendrik M.
Hello everyone,
my name is Hendrik, and I lived with my small family in a cozy single-family home in Bad Nenndorf. However, last December our family suddenly grew by 3 boys. Unfortunately, our house is not suitable for 4 children. There is a new development area in our town, so we are now considering building a new house.
I haven’t been able to find many interesting floor plans online for houses with 7 rooms. Maybe you have some ideas?
A very important point for a new build is that the house shouldn’t be too large once the children have moved out. In other words, it would be great if you had ideas on how to make use of the unused living space in a way that still feels spacious.
At the moment, we are thinking along the following lines:
- Total size around 250sqm (2,690 sq ft)
- 4 children’s bedrooms, 1 guest room, sleeping room and living room
- 2 bathrooms with showers and 1 guest toilet
- Sauna in one of the bathrooms with a shower
- No basement, but enough storage space
- Currently preferred style is an urban villa (but then where do you store all your stuff if you have neither a basement nor an attic?)
- Living conservatory over 20sqm (215 sq ft)
- Double garage with an adjoining workshop
- Open kitchen connected to the living room
I would be really happy if anyone has ideas for a nice floor plan.
Unfortunately, with the triplets (now 9 months old) and their sister (3 years), we only have about half an hour per day to think about these matters, which is quite stressful for us. So I ask for your understanding if this request seems a bit unspecific to some of you.
Another option would be to extend our current house. An architect estimated around €2000 per sqm (note: do not translate currency, but consider for your understanding) and estimated the cost for a living conservatory (40sqm / 430 sq ft) to be about €80,000.
Where do you think we would end up with a new build as described above? Would €500,000 to €600,000 be realistic (excluding land, but including garage)?
Many thanks for your ideas,
Hendrik
my name is Hendrik, and I lived with my small family in a cozy single-family home in Bad Nenndorf. However, last December our family suddenly grew by 3 boys. Unfortunately, our house is not suitable for 4 children. There is a new development area in our town, so we are now considering building a new house.
I haven’t been able to find many interesting floor plans online for houses with 7 rooms. Maybe you have some ideas?
A very important point for a new build is that the house shouldn’t be too large once the children have moved out. In other words, it would be great if you had ideas on how to make use of the unused living space in a way that still feels spacious.
At the moment, we are thinking along the following lines:
- Total size around 250sqm (2,690 sq ft)
- 4 children’s bedrooms, 1 guest room, sleeping room and living room
- 2 bathrooms with showers and 1 guest toilet
- Sauna in one of the bathrooms with a shower
- No basement, but enough storage space
- Currently preferred style is an urban villa (but then where do you store all your stuff if you have neither a basement nor an attic?)
- Living conservatory over 20sqm (215 sq ft)
- Double garage with an adjoining workshop
- Open kitchen connected to the living room
I would be really happy if anyone has ideas for a nice floor plan.
Unfortunately, with the triplets (now 9 months old) and their sister (3 years), we only have about half an hour per day to think about these matters, which is quite stressful for us. So I ask for your understanding if this request seems a bit unspecific to some of you.
Another option would be to extend our current house. An architect estimated around €2000 per sqm (note: do not translate currency, but consider for your understanding) and estimated the cost for a living conservatory (40sqm / 430 sq ft) to be about €80,000.
Where do you think we would end up with a new build as described above? Would €500,000 to €600,000 be realistic (excluding land, but including garage)?
Many thanks for your ideas,
Hendrik
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Hendrik M3 Oct 2018 09:06Hello,
here is the development plan and a sketch of our house on the plot. We are allowed a floor area ratio of 0.4, but including the garage and driveways it can go up to 0.6.
Regarding the budget, we are flexible. The nicer the house turns out, the more we are willing to spend. I would initially estimate around 250,000–300,000 €.
Our current heating system is oversized at 26 kW, so it can also heat the extension. We do not want to add any additional bathrooms. The children’s rooms should be 15–20 sqm (160–215 sq ft).
here is the development plan and a sketch of our house on the plot. We are allowed a floor area ratio of 0.4, but including the garage and driveways it can go up to 0.6.
Regarding the budget, we are flexible. The nicer the house turns out, the more we are willing to spend. I would initially estimate around 250,000–300,000 €.
Our current heating system is oversized at 26 kW, so it can also heat the extension. We do not want to add any additional bathrooms. The children’s rooms should be 15–20 sqm (160–215 sq ft).
Hendrik M schrieb:
We are allowed a floor area ratio of 0.4, but with garage driveways, 0.6 is also possible.I have some trouble using PDFs on my phone, but anyway.
You have to calculate what is still possible. You don’t want to demolish. What is possible, what do you want, how much needs to be added and how much can be added?
You should—if not here, as I believe this thread is too mixed up—work that out for yourself. For that, you need the figures from the zoning plan / building regulations and your house...
An architect is essential...
I generally consider 20 sqm (215 sq ft) for a child’s room excessive and in this case also disproportionate. It would also be difficult to implement.
I am not sure about the building envelope or boundary restrictions, but my initial idea would be to extend the living space and kitchen with an addition matching the existing house’s width, and then expand the upper floor by the same footprint. The master bedroom and bathroom would remain unchanged. The newly gained space, together with the two existing children’s bedrooms, would be converted into four children’s bedrooms and, depending on the size of the extension, possibly an additional children’s bathroom, replacing the conservatory.
During the renovation, the older child will need to move downstairs, while the three younger children will share the parents’ room. The kitchen can still be used up until the final stages, as can the living room.
During the renovation, the older child will need to move downstairs, while the three younger children will share the parents’ room. The kitchen can still be used up until the final stages, as can the living room.
Please understand that I
a) am reluctant to open PDFs when I’m on the go
b) don’t really feel like reading through an entire development plan and extracting the key points myself (I would rather expect you to provide that input)
c) although I’m now sitting at my desk with a PC and have no trouble opening PDFs, I’m still not willing to read documents that are upside down
a) am reluctant to open PDFs when I’m on the go
b) don’t really feel like reading through an entire development plan and extracting the key points myself (I would rather expect you to provide that input)
c) although I’m now sitting at my desk with a PC and have no trouble opening PDFs, I’m still not willing to read documents that are upside down
Climbee schrieb:
I’m not sure about the building permit or planning permission window, but my initial thought would be to extend the living area and kitchen with an addition matching the existing house’s width, and then expand the upper floor by the same footprint. Unfortunately, the PDF only includes the changes to the textual regulations, not the graphical part of the development plan.
An extension on the gable end would be considerably less expensive in terms of effort—but first, we need to find out what is actually allowed.
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