ᐅ New construction after the birth of triplets. Looking forward to your ideas.

Created on: 23 Sep 2018 21:07
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Hendrik M.
Hello everyone,
my name is Hendrik, and I lived with my small family in a cozy single-family home in Bad Nenndorf. However, last December our family suddenly grew by 3 boys. Unfortunately, our house is not suitable for 4 children. There is a new development area in our town, so we are now considering building a new house.
I haven’t been able to find many interesting floor plans online for houses with 7 rooms. Maybe you have some ideas?

A very important point for a new build is that the house shouldn’t be too large once the children have moved out. In other words, it would be great if you had ideas on how to make use of the unused living space in a way that still feels spacious.

At the moment, we are thinking along the following lines:
- Total size around 250sqm (2,690 sq ft)
- 4 children’s bedrooms, 1 guest room, sleeping room and living room
- 2 bathrooms with showers and 1 guest toilet
- Sauna in one of the bathrooms with a shower
- No basement, but enough storage space
- Currently preferred style is an urban villa (but then where do you store all your stuff if you have neither a basement nor an attic?)
- Living conservatory over 20sqm (215 sq ft)
- Double garage with an adjoining workshop
- Open kitchen connected to the living room

I would be really happy if anyone has ideas for a nice floor plan.

Unfortunately, with the triplets (now 9 months old) and their sister (3 years), we only have about half an hour per day to think about these matters, which is quite stressful for us. So I ask for your understanding if this request seems a bit unspecific to some of you.

Another option would be to extend our current house. An architect estimated around €2000 per sqm (note: do not translate currency, but consider for your understanding) and estimated the cost for a living conservatory (40sqm / 430 sq ft) to be about €80,000.

Where do you think we would end up with a new build as described above? Would €500,000 to €600,000 be realistic (excluding land, but including garage)?

Many thanks for your ideas,
Hendrik
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Bookstar
25 Sep 2018 09:06
Are we even talking about a masonry house? Because it can be easily extended, unlike a timber frame house.
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Zaba12
25 Sep 2018 12:54
Hendrik M. schrieb:
So, if I spend 800,000 euros (including the land) on a new build, I believe I can get that money back when selling it (let’s say after 20 years, when the house might be too big without kids).

I disagree. Your house will likely be even harder to sell than an architect-designed home without kids’ bedrooms.

How many families in Germany have four or more children? They certainly don’t all live concentrated in your region, so your house won’t be snapped up quickly.

In absolute budget terms, I agree with the idea of an extension. But you’re prioritizing the wrong thing. A conservatory (or sunroom) isn’t meant to increase useful living space. Instead, it’s about an extension to the living room (where two more children’s bedrooms could fit, plus an extension to the kitchen to make it larger). Upstairs is usually already decided.

The only pity is missing out on the child benefits for new builds. But we’re discussing that topic in another thread right now.
11ant25 Sep 2018 15:04
Hendrik M. schrieb:
We are limited to a eaves height of 4.5 m (15 feet), which unfortunately rules out the "cube" option for us. That’s why we would choose a single-pitch roof.

Isn’t it more likely to be a broken / offset gable roof, or would the ridge height actually allow a true (i.e., single-plane) single-pitch roof?
Zaba12 schrieb:
How many families in Germany have 4 or more children? Surely they do not all live clustered in your area, so your house won’t be snatched away from you.

But there are quite a few people who want a large house; bedrooms can also be repurposed, combined, and so on.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Zaba12
25 Sep 2018 16:08
11ant schrieb:
But there are quite a few people who want a large house; you can always repurpose or combine children's rooms, etc.

I agree with you. But if you already have a guest room and/or home office in addition to the 4 children's bedrooms, you probably won't need another 3 offices—unless you're a family of four teachers.

Five bedrooms are quite specific. As a family of four, you only need three bedrooms. And let's be honest, everyone (exaggerating) except me has a home office/guest room downstairs—which means bedroom number 6.
11ant25 Sep 2018 16:23
Zaba12 schrieb:
But if you already have a guest room and/or a study in addition to the 4 children’s bedrooms, you probably won’t need three more studies.

The above-average-sized children’s bedrooms won’t just have load-bearing walls; a future owner could knock some down. Whether a childless couple later divides the 250 m² (2,691 sq ft) more openly or turns a room into a doll collection room, a smoking room, a room for BDSM activities, or whatever else, doesn’t really matter. I just wanted to say: buyers for 250 m² (2,691 sq ft) of living space can be found even among people with few or no children. That doesn’t make a house harder to sell – an ’80s-style sunroom is more likely to do that.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
blaupuma26 Sep 2018 21:12
Bookstar schrieb:
Voluntarily choosing a new build? Never. I would definitely go for the extension. Financially, it’s also the much better option.

Is that meant seriously?