ᐅ Is this landscaping contractor’s quote reasonable or way too expensive?

Created on: 15 Sep 2018 17:40
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hi!

I received a quote from a landscape contractor and I’m curious to know if you think it’s reasonable or excessively high. I knew from the start that it wouldn’t be the cheapest, but it would still be interesting to get your take on it.

It’s a bit disappointing that he initially said he could complete everything for €125,000 (around $135,000), including even a pool and lighting package, but now many things aren’t included at all—no lighting, no irrigation system, etc.

Unfortunately, in this area, there aren’t many alternative quotes available. If you don’t plan from the beginning and are ready to proceed, it’s hard to get other options offered.

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Maria16
23 Sep 2018 10:27
The robber’s statement stands. Period.

No matter how many people here think it’s “wrong” to have the entire garden done by someone else. We should accept that the robber has a different approach and either offer him sensible support (regarding having it done!) or leave the subject alone.

No one here will convince him to do it himself, and I have the greatest understanding for him right now—but not necessarily for those trying to persuade him to garden (from someone who will pull weeds later if the weather and a cold allow).
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HilfeHilfe
23 Sep 2018 10:37
Maria16 schrieb:
The robber’s statement stands. Period.

No matter how many people here think it’s “wrong” to have the entire garden done by someone else. One should accept that the robber has a different opinion and either offer him reasonable support (with regard to having it done!) or just leave the topic alone.

No one here will convince him to do it himself, and I have the greatest understanding for him, but right now not necessarily for those trying to persuade him to garden (from someone who later pulls weeds if weather and a cold permit)
No one said otherwise. What doesn’t fit is that on the one hand, he wants to have it done by someone else, but on the other hand is either too stingy or does not accept that a landscaping contractor can do everything.
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R.Hotzenplotz
23 Sep 2018 11:13
haydee schrieb:
When is the robber supposed to serve his sentence?

Especially how? I just spent almost an hour and a half setting up the two purchased dehumidifiers for the basement. With things like this, I always feel completely inept—it’s just the way it is. I always say that at home I can still hammer a nail into the wall (though I once accidentally drilled into wiring in a rental apartment because I wasn’t aware of it—since then I always request the relevant plans beforehand). But when it comes to hammer drills and such, professionals always handle those jobs. Maybe it’s because in my parents’ house it was the same, and I never really got involved in any kind of DIY or craftwork. And I never had the interest to learn more about it. My approach is rather to strengthen my talents and inclinations while compensating for weaknesses with appropriate measures instead of struggling unnecessarily.
Maria16 schrieb:
Nobody here will push him to do it himself, and I completely understand him, but at the moment I’m not so sure about those trying to persuade him to do gardening (speaking as someone who pulls weeds later, if weather and a cold allow)

Once the garden is established, my wife and I might actually enjoy some of the tasks. Surely we’ll pull weeds or do similar work occasionally. We’ll just have to see how it goes.
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
What doesn’t fit is that on one hand you want to have it done, but on the other he’s too stingy or doesn’t accept that a landscaping professional can do everything

That’s simply not true! It goes without saying that a landscaper will have to and will do all of that for us! Many users here frowned when I mentioned the high costs of landscaping for our project. There were also various voices doubting the price level and practically calling me crazy for (wrongly assumed!) not obtaining competing quotes in that price range.

No, we are not stingy! We just want to check if the price is reasonable. And comparing is not as easy here as it is online when ordering a TV. It’s not only the price that matters, but also the quality of the provider—that means the price/performance ratio, not the absolute price.

You can accuse me of many things, but not stinginess. I never complained in the housebuilding thread when something turned out to be more expensive than initially expected. At most, I asked questions and then made my own decisions. I’m not the type of person who buys a Ferrari and then complains about fuel consumption, if that’s what you mean.

But the fact that there are providers who charge good money for good work as well as some who simply overcharge and overprice—that is a fact. And investigating this for our particular case was exactly what mattered to me—not whining about how expensive the so-called “evil” gardeners are. Even if the whole thing ends up costing €200,000 (two hundred thousand euros), I will save up for it and accept it without complaints—but only after thorough review so I don’t feel like I’ve been ripped off because it’s a realistic and fair price.

It’s also not about finding an equivalent landscaper who does it for €2,329.42 less; it’s only about checking for obvious discrepancies in the price/performance ratio.
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haydee
23 Sep 2018 12:22
Take it slowly. Perhaps you will gradually lose your hesitation about using the hammer drill. The technique is often a challenge if you haven't learned it from your father.
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HilfeHilfe
23 Sep 2018 12:39
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Above all, how? I just spent almost an hour and a half setting up the two dehumidifiers we bought for the basement. With these kinds of things, I always feel like a complete amateur—it’s just how it is. I always say that at home I can still hammer a nail into the wall (I even once accidentally hammered into the electrical wiring in my rental apartment, as I wasn’t aware of it—since then, I always request the corresponding plans beforehand). But when it comes to using hammer drills and similar tools, professionals take over. Maybe it’s also because it was the same way in my parents’ house, where I never even came close to doing anything manual. And I never had the interest to get more involved. My approach is more about building on strengths and interests; compensating for weaknesses with suitable measures rather than struggling through them.

Once the garden is finished, my wife and I might also take some interest in occasional tasks. Surely, we’ll do some weeding or similar jobs. We’ll just have to see how it goes.

That’s simply not true! There’s no question that a landscaping contractor has to and will do everything for us! Here, many users frowned when I mentioned the high costs for landscaping in our project. There were also various comments questioning the amount and practically calling me crazy for not getting multiple quotes in that price range (which I had mistakenly assumed!).

No, we are not being stingy! We just want to check whether the price is fair. And comparing prices here isn’t as easy as ordering a TV online. It's not just about the price but also the quality of the provider—the price/performance ratio, not the absolute price.

People can say many things about me but not that I’m stingy. I’ve never complained in the house building thread when something turned out more expensive than initially estimated. I only questioned it and then made my own decision. I’m not the kind of person who buys a Ferrari and then complains about gas consumption, if that’s what you mean.

However, it’s a fact that some providers not only charge good money for good work but also offer overpriced and excessive quotes. Investigating this in our specific case was the sole purpose—it wasn’t about whining about how expensive the “bad gardeners” are. Even if the whole thing ends up costing €200,000 (200,000 €), I’ll just have to save up for it, but then I accept it, don’t complain, and after thorough review, I don’t feel ripped off because that’s simply a realistic and fair price.

It’s also not about finding an equivalent landscaper who offers the whole job €2,329.42 cheaper but only about checking for obvious distortions in the price/performance ratio.

I don’t know. It’s just strange that they then start cutting costs at the cheapest item (gravel).
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haydee
23 Sep 2018 13:30
That was the uncertainty caused by someone feeling the need to say something.