ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
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R.Hotzenplotz21 Sep 2018 10:26I will not involve an expert at this stage but will instead pass the matter on to the contractor. If he does not consider the requirements of the Q2 level to be met, he should provide a written explanation and, if applicable, proof. Otherwise, he should deliver as ordered, or I am happy to release him from the contract confirmation.
kaho674 schrieb:
When this never-ending story is finally over, I would put the general contractor’s name in huge letters under the thread. I know the general contractor (GU) personally (not in a close way) and he doesn’t give me a bad impression at all. In my opinion, the mistake (on both sides) was taking the risk of combining two very different things: the original poster wanted a true “architect’s house,” which means a lot of detailed individuality; but the GU’s expertise lies elsewhere: standard models, standard plus, and standard premium—each often with modified floor plans inspired by the client, but still fairly close to the norm. The OP went beyond that—this was more of a pilot project, one neither side will likely repeat.
The GU’s office is less than an hour’s drive from me, and I don’t know of any disgruntled customers there. What they normally do is more of a traditional, straightforward house—just available in all price ranges.
So I can well imagine that he’s never managed a site with this many critical details before, and might be thinking, “Usually the clients are fine with the result; here the problem must be the client or their expert.” I suspect he had never encountered something like the pre-installation for the passage door (which I inadvertently introduced). And a client questioning shower water pressure? Definitely not.
From my perspective, two parties came together here where at least one should have said “no” (though neither likely anticipated this situation).
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kaho674 schrieb:
When this never-ending story is over, I would actually put the name of the general contractor in large letters under the thread. I find that neither funny nor appropriate, and it is not allowed; but it fits with your overall behavior here.
The contractor signed the contract under completely false assumptions, just as the general contractor, in turn, accepted it under the same conditions. I have already expressed my view on the many inquiries, follow-ups, actions, reactions, expert opinions, etc. from the contractor, and I still do not see him as the "poor" homeowner, as Josephine and others do.
I am almost certain that the contractor has learned nothing from everything he has experienced on the construction site so far, and Josephine’s and others’ virtual support is therefore for him a confirmation of what he has always believed. Quote: “All scammers.” So, the best conditions to bring the building project to a sensible conclusion.
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chand198621 Sep 2018 17:26Bau.mal schrieb:
The contractor signed the contract under completely false assumptions, as did the general contractor (GC) in turn when accepting it.That’s exactly the crucial point. Meanwhile, the contract is no longer amendable. So what alternative approach leads to an acceptable outcome? Do you have any ideas?
An expert is essential and irreplaceable here, given the setup with the GC attempting something outside their usual expertise and the client wanting something that the GC cannot deliver as expected.
However, there have also been several mistakes made by the workers (or resulting from changes to the plans), which should not happen on a professional construction site, period. Sure, that might occur almost everywhere, but it needs to be corrected.
The fact that many side issues are being raised is due to the critical situation mentioned above. I believe nothing more can be done about that; it will likely just run its course until the end.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I also make the sign of the cross three times when I'm done. As a layperson, you feel completely overwhelmed and you can never schedule enough expert consultation appointments. Tomorrow I have to call again to see if he can approve the plaster and what the situation is with the stair transitions. Another issue has to be handled by a specialized installer expert. Simply frustrating.
Above all, we are falling further behind schedule. My interior fitters can’t start because they don’t want to paint until the drywall ceiling is installed. That keeps getting delayed since not even a blower door test has been carried out. It is scheduled for at least two weeks from now, and only after that will the drywall ceiling be installed. But no tiles can be laid before that either due to screed drying. It’s all just really frustrating.
They mainly want to make it easy on themselves by sticking to the nine-month construction period. However, they can only manage that because the self-performed trades are excluded. That nine-month period would have to be met even with everything included. This will probably be a case for a lawyer, to clearly quantify the exact days of delay that can ultimately be claimed.Has the blower door test already taken place?
11ant schrieb:
...which neither of them probably could have anticipated). I see it somewhat differently.
As a professional, I must know my limits and assess a project accurately. If it is foreseeable that too many unknown factors will arise, one must also be able to decline the job. Otherwise, complaints and criticism will follow. Blaming the layperson for choosing the wrong professional, on the other hand, strikes me as nonsense. How should they know that the professional overestimated themselves?
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