Hello everyone,
The first attempt has become quite chaotic by now, so I’m opening a new thread.
Here is the old one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/nordterrasse-und-Küche-im-sueden.28750/
Challenge: The actual plot, which already isn’t very wide at 17 m (length about 50 m), will get an access path on the south side to the rear properties.
I have since abandoned the idea of placing the house crosswise. I had hoped for more west sunlight from that, but it comes at the expense of the already limited lateral space, even though it’s the northern side.
One crucial question is the location of the entrance: narrow side (east), via the access path (which would be legally possible / confirmable), or from the north?
Are there generally valid advantages or disadvantages to any of these entrance options, for example unavoidable (negative) impacts on the room layout?
The distance to the access path is flexible.
Here is a very rough outline of the plot (red), the path (blue), and the position of the house (yellow):
My currently favored solution: a narrow house (max about 9 m) positioned as far north as possible, right on the boundary, with the entrance on the north side so that there is space for a small terrace on the south side and thus access to south sunlight.
The west terrace is definite.
For example, something like this (dimensions: 8.10 m x 13.15 m). Discovered again at Viebrockhaus.
Sorry, NORTH is at the bottom here! Please mentally rotate the plan 180 degrees.
This would allow a south terrace with good privacy screening.
The only thing I would still consider is swapping the bedrooms for sleeping and children regarding orientation, but I don’t have a good idea yet.
Looking forward to your feedback.
The first attempt has become quite chaotic by now, so I’m opening a new thread.
Here is the old one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/nordterrasse-und-Küche-im-sueden.28750/
Challenge: The actual plot, which already isn’t very wide at 17 m (length about 50 m), will get an access path on the south side to the rear properties.
I have since abandoned the idea of placing the house crosswise. I had hoped for more west sunlight from that, but it comes at the expense of the already limited lateral space, even though it’s the northern side.
One crucial question is the location of the entrance: narrow side (east), via the access path (which would be legally possible / confirmable), or from the north?
Are there generally valid advantages or disadvantages to any of these entrance options, for example unavoidable (negative) impacts on the room layout?
The distance to the access path is flexible.
Here is a very rough outline of the plot (red), the path (blue), and the position of the house (yellow):
My currently favored solution: a narrow house (max about 9 m) positioned as far north as possible, right on the boundary, with the entrance on the north side so that there is space for a small terrace on the south side and thus access to south sunlight.
The west terrace is definite.
For example, something like this (dimensions: 8.10 m x 13.15 m). Discovered again at Viebrockhaus.
Sorry, NORTH is at the bottom here! Please mentally rotate the plan 180 degrees.
This would allow a south terrace with good privacy screening.
The only thing I would still consider is swapping the bedrooms for sleeping and children regarding orientation, but I don’t have a good idea yet.
Looking forward to your feedback.
ypg schrieb:
Me neither. Could you read it again?
I like the visualization, but having an open layout also has downsides... especially when you have children who have their own lives.My daughter lives with me part-time and she is already 13.
So, I am basically building almost just for myself at the moment and can approach it quite "uncompromisingly."
Of course, she is also taken into consideration—don’t get me wrong.
kbt09 schrieb:
Office upstairs ... what else should go upstairs? Unfortunately, there is no completed list. I think having the office upstairs might become a bit cramped.Yes, the list is quite extensive; maybe a simplified version would be helpful.
However, I’m still not entirely sure about many things myself.
By “office upstairs,” I mean using one of the three rooms.
So, upstairs:
Bedroom
Child’s room
Office / Guest room
Bathroom
I don’t need an office downstairs, even though I would find that more convenient than upstairs. But I also doubt whether the narrow space would make me happy.
I’m still dreaming of a basement (budget permitting), which is really a budget issue. That would, of course, open up many possibilities.
It’s a difficult plot. But it seems you don’t have a choice since the one at the back is no longer available?
If that’s the case, your thoughts are heading in the right direction. I could also imagine an east-facing entrance, depending on the interior layout and what works better. If you were my neighbor, I wouldn’t allow any construction within three meters (about 10 feet) of my property line. Everything is so tight already, so why make it even tighter? Your north is my south. How did you come up with the 2.5 meters (about 8 feet)?
I would also be uncompromising about ridge height, roof pitch, and so on. Your north is my south! The only way to manage this is to strictly adhere to the rules.
Regarding the room layout: we have a north-facing kitchen, which doesn’t bother us at all, but we enjoy our living room facing southwest.
K.
If that’s the case, your thoughts are heading in the right direction. I could also imagine an east-facing entrance, depending on the interior layout and what works better. If you were my neighbor, I wouldn’t allow any construction within three meters (about 10 feet) of my property line. Everything is so tight already, so why make it even tighter? Your north is my south. How did you come up with the 2.5 meters (about 8 feet)?
I would also be uncompromising about ridge height, roof pitch, and so on. Your north is my south! The only way to manage this is to strictly adhere to the rules.
Regarding the room layout: we have a north-facing kitchen, which doesn’t bother us at all, but we enjoy our living room facing southwest.
K.
At the back, there is a noise barrier along a four-lane road (50 km/h zone, 30 mph zone), above which runs a high-voltage power line. At the front, there is a quiet 30 km/h zone (20 mph zone) with a very nicely developed street.
Therefore, I prefer to face the front.
Yes, an east-facing entrance would also be possible, but I haven’t found any floor plans that fit well, as so much space is lost.
As far as I know, 2.5 m (8 feet) is the requirement in Hamburg.
Do you mean uncompromising from the neighbor’s perspective? That’s not what I meant at all, but of course I will only build what is permitted.
Therefore, I prefer to face the front.
Yes, an east-facing entrance would also be possible, but I haven’t found any floor plans that fit well, as so much space is lost.
Nordlys schrieb:
Your north is my south. How do you come up with 2.5 m (8 feet)?
I would also be uncompromising about ridge height, roof pitch, etc. Your north would be my south! Here, strictly following the rules is the only option.
As far as I know, 2.5 m (8 feet) is the requirement in Hamburg.
Do you mean uncompromising from the neighbor’s perspective? That’s not what I meant at all, but of course I will only build what is permitted.
Even simpler and very traditional. Put the kitchen in the room that is now called Guest. Connect it to the HTR with a door. Inside, place the washing machine, dryer, freezer cabinet, and storage shelves like Ikea Ivar. This area is now the utility zone. The living area then consists of the space where the kitchen is now and the room where the table is located. Then, in the area where the couch is currently, build a wall and create the Guest room there. Consider whether this might be the most practical solution.
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