Hello everyone,
The first attempt has become quite chaotic by now, so I’m opening a new thread.
Here is the old one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/nordterrasse-und-Küche-im-sueden.28750/
Challenge: The actual plot, which already isn’t very wide at 17 m (length about 50 m), will get an access path on the south side to the rear properties.
I have since abandoned the idea of placing the house crosswise. I had hoped for more west sunlight from that, but it comes at the expense of the already limited lateral space, even though it’s the northern side.
One crucial question is the location of the entrance: narrow side (east), via the access path (which would be legally possible / confirmable), or from the north?
Are there generally valid advantages or disadvantages to any of these entrance options, for example unavoidable (negative) impacts on the room layout?
The distance to the access path is flexible.
Here is a very rough outline of the plot (red), the path (blue), and the position of the house (yellow):
My currently favored solution: a narrow house (max about 9 m) positioned as far north as possible, right on the boundary, with the entrance on the north side so that there is space for a small terrace on the south side and thus access to south sunlight.
The west terrace is definite.
For example, something like this (dimensions: 8.10 m x 13.15 m). Discovered again at Viebrockhaus.
Sorry, NORTH is at the bottom here! Please mentally rotate the plan 180 degrees.
This would allow a south terrace with good privacy screening.
The only thing I would still consider is swapping the bedrooms for sleeping and children regarding orientation, but I don’t have a good idea yet.
Looking forward to your feedback.
The first attempt has become quite chaotic by now, so I’m opening a new thread.
Here is the old one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/nordterrasse-und-Küche-im-sueden.28750/
Challenge: The actual plot, which already isn’t very wide at 17 m (length about 50 m), will get an access path on the south side to the rear properties.
I have since abandoned the idea of placing the house crosswise. I had hoped for more west sunlight from that, but it comes at the expense of the already limited lateral space, even though it’s the northern side.
One crucial question is the location of the entrance: narrow side (east), via the access path (which would be legally possible / confirmable), or from the north?
Are there generally valid advantages or disadvantages to any of these entrance options, for example unavoidable (negative) impacts on the room layout?
The distance to the access path is flexible.
Here is a very rough outline of the plot (red), the path (blue), and the position of the house (yellow):
My currently favored solution: a narrow house (max about 9 m) positioned as far north as possible, right on the boundary, with the entrance on the north side so that there is space for a small terrace on the south side and thus access to south sunlight.
The west terrace is definite.
For example, something like this (dimensions: 8.10 m x 13.15 m). Discovered again at Viebrockhaus.
Sorry, NORTH is at the bottom here! Please mentally rotate the plan 180 degrees.
This would allow a south terrace with good privacy screening.
The only thing I would still consider is swapping the bedrooms for sleeping and children regarding orientation, but I don’t have a good idea yet.
Looking forward to your feedback.
kaho674 schrieb:
I never see narrow houses as standard.Me neither. Could you read it again?
I like the visualization, but open layouts also have drawbacks... especially when you have children who have their own lives.
ypg schrieb:
Me neither. Could you read that again please Off-topic: Haha, I think we’re misunderstanding each other again. I just wanted to say that I wouldn’t try a standard approach for narrow houses either. They are always something special. Whether to emphasize it or not—I’m not so sure at 8m (26 feet). It gets more interesting at 6 to 7m (20 to 23 feet).
Hamburch schrieb:
In the meantime, I have moved away from the idea of “squeezing” the house across. It would have been tight or unsuitable with the exterior dimensions of your first floor plan.
Hamburch schrieb:
or over the access road (would be legally possible / certifiable)? That would be the worst solution. You would automatically be obligated to participate in the maintenance and would have to deal constantly with 6 co-owners.
Hamburch schrieb:
as far north as possible That means a 2.5m (8 feet) setback from the property line. This would limit your options for a garage in the future, if you ever want one.
Hamburch schrieb:
space for a small terrace in the south Which would be limited to a maximum of 2.9m (9.5 feet) from the boundary. With the privacy screen you want, it probably wouldn’t be very inviting, and the view from the dining room would also be limited.
Attached are your version and my counter proposal:
PS: With the 2m (6.5 feet) lines in the attic, it might count as a full story, unless the roof pitch stays below 25°.
Escroda schrieb:
That means a 2.5m (8 feet) boundary setback. This takes away the possibility of adding a garage later on. If the entrance is on the north side, there wouldn’t be room for a garage there anyway, and 2.5m (8 feet) would be too narrow.
Or did I misunderstand you?
I’ve heard that with a neighbor’s encumbrance, 2m (6.5 feet) might also be possible. Their house is apparently about 3m (10 feet) away.
Regarding the south-facing terrace, it’s not so much about spending time there, since the west-facing terrace also gets southern sun. It’s more about controlling the light, which I would mostly want to block out.
And for that, wouldn’t 3m (10 feet) distance minus some privacy screening be enough?
As for the view from the dining room, you’re right… good point!
Escroda schrieb:
PS: With the 2m (6.6 ft) lines in the attic, it might count as a full story unless the roof pitch remains below 25°.Yes, this definitely needs to be clarified! I have an appointment regarding these issues on Monday.
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