Hello everyone,
Our new residential development is finally going on the market. We now have until mid-October to apply for a plot of land. We can provide a ranking of preferences, and the allocation will be decided based on social points (children, workplace, etc.), determining if and which plot we receive.
Our selection criteria are as follows:
- Space for a double carport with attached storage/workshop
- Not too many neighbors nearby
- Due to our budget, no larger than 650 sqm (7000 sq ft)
- Also, due to building regulations, a minimum size of 500 sqm (5400 sq ft)
There are only a handful of plots in the area that meet our requirements. All are located along the noise protection berm. We would include all of these on our wish list for the application, but the question is in what order.
Our top choice is either plot No. 4 or No. 1.
No. 4:
+ Located at the cul-de-sac
+ Largest plot area
+ Best orientation with the most west-facing sun
- Neighbors on both sides
- Possibly a longer driveway needed for the carport?
No. 1:
+ Neighbors on only one side
+ Use of the street as driveway access to the carport (short driveway on the plot)
- Area to the north will eventually also become a building zone
- Corner plot
- Possibly insufficient west-facing sunlight?
- Higher noise regulations
Although plot No. 4 has more advantages, we are currently leaning towards No. 1. Therefore, our question is: from your perspective, are there any important points against either of these plots? Do you have any experience with plots adjacent to noise berms?
Thank you very much for your help!
Our new residential development is finally going on the market. We now have until mid-October to apply for a plot of land. We can provide a ranking of preferences, and the allocation will be decided based on social points (children, workplace, etc.), determining if and which plot we receive.
Our selection criteria are as follows:
- Space for a double carport with attached storage/workshop
- Not too many neighbors nearby
- Due to our budget, no larger than 650 sqm (7000 sq ft)
- Also, due to building regulations, a minimum size of 500 sqm (5400 sq ft)
There are only a handful of plots in the area that meet our requirements. All are located along the noise protection berm. We would include all of these on our wish list for the application, but the question is in what order.
Our top choice is either plot No. 4 or No. 1.
No. 4:
+ Located at the cul-de-sac
+ Largest plot area
+ Best orientation with the most west-facing sun
- Neighbors on both sides
- Possibly a longer driveway needed for the carport?
No. 1:
+ Neighbors on only one side
+ Use of the street as driveway access to the carport (short driveway on the plot)
- Area to the north will eventually also become a building zone
- Corner plot
- Possibly insufficient west-facing sunlight?
- Higher noise regulations
Although plot No. 4 has more advantages, we are currently leaning towards No. 1. Therefore, our question is: from your perspective, are there any important points against either of these plots? Do you have any experience with plots adjacent to noise berms?
Thank you very much for your help!
With number 4, you can foresee the future (namely the neighboring houses), while with number 1, you don’t know when or in what form development across the street might continue (number 83 looks like mixed woodland; I assume the rest is where the building plots are now).
You can manage perfectly well without a king-size carport.
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You can manage perfectly well without a king-size carport.
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11ant schrieb:
With option 4, you know what the future holds (namely the neighboring houses); with option 1, you don’t know when or in what form development might continue across the way (plot 83 looks like mixed forest, I assume the rest where the building plots are now).
You can live without a king-size carport.I’m not completely without information. The development plan for the upper area is currently in progress. It’s just that purchasing the plots is still taking some time. Plot number 83 is currently a meadow, with a small garden shed and some scattered trees.
The city plans to develop the area upwards in one go. So eventually, there will only be a construction site and, over time, more traffic. That’s why it’s clear that the noise barrier will eventually be extended. Until then, we would have a king-size carport on plot 1 to act as a screen.
I’m trying to convey that this isn’t necessary. But he has already stepped back from his wish to buy over 1000 sqm (10,764 sq ft) in an outlying area including barns. He’s just more from a rural background and isn’t used to neighbors and space restrictions. This is now the compromise.
Lenschke schrieb:
The zoning plan for the upper area is currently in progress. Only the acquisition of the land is still taking some time. I attended a town hall meeting four weeks ago regarding a connection between two construction phases of a new development. Phase I has been inhabited for twelve years, and Phase II is not expected to start before at least five years from now. Initially, Phase II was thought to be essentially a repeat of Phase I, but that is now hardly the case.
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There is indeed an element of uncertainty: there are recurring efforts to include social housing in the building plans. This was avoided in the past but could become relevant in the future. Overall, it’s a great initiative, just not right next to your own home 😉
In that respect, you’re right. That will be added to the list of considerations, as I hadn’t thought of it that way before...
In that respect, you’re right. That will be added to the list of considerations, as I hadn’t thought of it that way before...
Lenschke schrieb:
There is actually an element of uncertainty: there are repeated efforts to include social housing in the development plans. This was avoided in the past but could become relevant in the future. Overall, it’s a great thing, just not in one’s own neighborhood 😉 Did you attend our community meeting? ;-)
Someone actually asked the settlement company’s managing director if he could guarantee that no social housing would be built there :-(
Bear in mind, this question came from "ordinary people," not from higher earners.
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Well, single-family homes and semi-detached houses tend to offer a nicer setup: generally less turnover and a stronger sense of community among neighbors. We live here in a village, and I have never seen people in multi-family buildings really engage much with the neighborhood. I’ve also lived in one, and none of the neighbors (including us) made much effort. It’s just a different dynamic.
So I need to clarify my point: this is really directed against multi-family buildings per se, at least those directly across the street.
A bit off-topic regarding social housing: if you look at a map showing where it is located, many would be surprised. People often associate it with large panel buildings, but quite often it includes granny flats or terraced houses. And as long as it’s not visible from the outside, nobody really complains. Certainly not at your local town meeting 😉
So I need to clarify my point: this is really directed against multi-family buildings per se, at least those directly across the street.
A bit off-topic regarding social housing: if you look at a map showing where it is located, many would be surprised. People often associate it with large panel buildings, but quite often it includes granny flats or terraced houses. And as long as it’s not visible from the outside, nobody really complains. Certainly not at your local town meeting 😉
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