ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.









As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
matte1987 schrieb:
I don’t mean to offend you, but I have a different opinion. With your approach to building, you would have been better off working with an architect.
Even if you believe that none of the architects you approached were a good fit, they would have had one thing in common that you don’t have now.
Namely, a professional who is involved in the planning and works for you, NOT for the construction company.
Because that is exactly part of the role of an independent architect...
Anyway. I think it’s great that you’re not giving up. Keep your head up. It’s just a minor setback; there are far worse things—like water still leaking into the house... I can only agree with Matte here.
I already asked once but didn’t get an answer—what criteria did you use to choose your construction company?
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R.Hotzenplotz10 Sep 2018 15:35Baufie schrieb:
I had asked before but didn’t get a response—what criteria did you use to choose your construction company?We spoke with other homeowners who were satisfied.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
We have had discussions with other builders who were satisfied.Did they also build as "customized" as you did, or were they standard houses from the general contractor?R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
to work with caution For your client. And in this setup, that is not you.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I still disagree. That would have been even more difficult for us, as it would have required a much deeper involvement – also in terms of time. You are the building owner, with all rights and responsibilities. Given the financial scope of a single-family house new build, thorough involvement at the critical points is an absolute must and something I expect from myself.
Following this thread, I get the impression that your priorities are completely misplaced; you require a material and scope of work specification for the cabinetmaker in the dressing room, but you don’t request the ventilation plans.
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R.Hotzenplotz10 Sep 2018 16:19Baufie schrieb:
Did they build as "customized" as you did, or more like standard houses from the general contractor?For them, every house is an architect-designed home. Inside, you could see high-quality materials. But I can’t really judge the degree of customization. Well, not everything is bad either. I believe almost no construction project goes without such issues.
MayrCh schrieb:
Following the thread, I get the impression that you completely misprioritized; for the cabinetmaker in the dressing room, you need a bill of materials and specifications, but you don’t obtain the ventilation plans.Even if we had ventilation plans, we would have had to hire an expert for €200 per hour to assess them. And it would only have made sense if violations of relevant DIN standards were identified. Otherwise, the only option would have been to separate the building services from the general contractor contract, so we could hire an independent MEP planner. With a freelance architect—which we did not find—we could have done it that way. I don’t know what sense it would have made within the general contractor framework.
We commission planning services where we find them reasonable—not only based on functionality but also considering contractual relationships. As I said, with building services, I would have found that difficult.
MayrCh schrieb:
He is working for his client. And in this situation, that is not you.That’s exactly what I meant. It’s a small but very important difference when it comes to who commissioned the architect.
That’s why I said you would have been better off with an architect working under a separate contract.
I also consider the extra time required for separate contracts to be a myth. You can, but don’t have to, decide everything yourself. You still have to review samples with the architect just as you would with the general contractor. Preparing specifications, issuing tenders, and evaluating offers are tasks done by the architect, not you.
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