ᐅ Carport/Garage Width – Is 2.50 meters sufficient, or is that too narrow?
Created on: 29 Aug 2018 11:03
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Skyfire
Hello everyone,
In addition to the 4-meter-wide (13 feet) garage, we are planning a carport for a second vehicle. Together, we have a total of 6.5 meters (21 feet) available for the garage and carport, but our main focus is on the garage since we don’t have a basement and need storage space.
So, width is the limiting factor here. Unfortunately, for the carport, we can’t exceed 2.5 meters (8 feet) in width, with a length of 6 meters (20 feet). The carport will be located between the garage and the house, so it will be enclosed by walls on both sides.
Is 2.5 meters (8 feet) wide enough for a carport, and is it still reasonably practical to get in and out of the car there? Or would it be better to skip the carport altogether?
Do you have any other suggestions?
We are not very broad people in the household, and the vehicle is a Golf 7.
Thank you very much for your help.
In addition to the 4-meter-wide (13 feet) garage, we are planning a carport for a second vehicle. Together, we have a total of 6.5 meters (21 feet) available for the garage and carport, but our main focus is on the garage since we don’t have a basement and need storage space.
So, width is the limiting factor here. Unfortunately, for the carport, we can’t exceed 2.5 meters (8 feet) in width, with a length of 6 meters (20 feet). The carport will be located between the garage and the house, so it will be enclosed by walls on both sides.
Is 2.5 meters (8 feet) wide enough for a carport, and is it still reasonably practical to get in and out of the car there? Or would it be better to skip the carport altogether?
Do you have any other suggestions?
We are not very broad people in the household, and the vehicle is a Golf 7.
Thank you very much for your help.
Kekse schrieb:
Is a 50 cm (20 inches) setback really allowed in Rhineland-Palatinate? In Lower Saxony, that is not permitted at all (for good reason, see "Müllecke"). Take it easy.
Setbacks can be reduced in Lower Saxony as well.
Section 5, paragraph 8, sentence 2, number 1 of the Lower Saxony Building Code.
The same applies in Rhineland-Palatinate, section 8, paragraph 9, sentence 1, number 1 of the Rhineland-Palatinate State Building Code.
Build up to the boundary. Brick the garage right up to the boundary. That way, it will also hold up against rustling plants.
Otus11 schrieb:
Slow down. Setbacks are allowed in Lower Saxony as well. Section 5, Paragraph 8, Sentence 2, Number 1 of the Lower Saxony Building Code. Yes. It states, "Without a setback or with a reduced setback of up to 1 meter (3.3 feet) from the boundary, [garages] are permitted."
So not with a 0.5-meter (1.6 feet) setback. But as I said, this applies to Lower Saxony. From a quick glance, the rules in Rhineland-Palatinate seem to be different indeed.
2 x no.
50 cm (20 inches) or 50.1 cm (20 inches) are "up to 1 m" (Lower Saxony) – or similarly / textually a "reduced depth of the setback areas" (Rhineland-Palatinate).
For Rhineland-Palatinate, here is § 8 paragraph 9 of the State Building Code in full:
(9) Against property boundaries, without setback areas or with a reduced depth of setback areas the following may be built:
1. [I]Garages,
2. Buildings and installations for local supply with electricity, gas, and water, and
3. Other buildings without habitable rooms and fireplaces
if they are located on the property boundaries or at a distance of up to 3 m (10 feet) from the property boundaries
a) do not exceed an average wall height of 3.20 m (10.5 feet) above ground level,
b) do not exceed a length of 12 m (39 feet) along a property boundary, and
c) have roofs pitched no more than 45° toward the property boundary; gable ends on the property boundary may not exceed a height of 4 m (13 feet) above ground level.
[/I]
All of this is the privileged exception to the principle in paragraph 6:
"The depth of the setback area is 0.4 H, (...). In all cases, however, the setback depth must be at least 3 m (10 feet)"
50 cm (20 inches) or 50.1 cm (20 inches) are "up to 1 m" (Lower Saxony) – or similarly / textually a "reduced depth of the setback areas" (Rhineland-Palatinate).
For Rhineland-Palatinate, here is § 8 paragraph 9 of the State Building Code in full:
(9) Against property boundaries, without setback areas or with a reduced depth of setback areas the following may be built:
1. [I]Garages,
2. Buildings and installations for local supply with electricity, gas, and water, and
3. Other buildings without habitable rooms and fireplaces
if they are located on the property boundaries or at a distance of up to 3 m (10 feet) from the property boundaries
a) do not exceed an average wall height of 3.20 m (10.5 feet) above ground level,
b) do not exceed a length of 12 m (39 feet) along a property boundary, and
c) have roofs pitched no more than 45° toward the property boundary; gable ends on the property boundary may not exceed a height of 4 m (13 feet) above ground level.
[/I]
All of this is the privileged exception to the principle in paragraph 6:
"The depth of the setback area is 0.4 H, (...). In all cases, however, the setback depth must be at least 3 m (10 feet)"
Trying to exercise one’s right to hammer on the mentioned wall on one’s own property, while squeezed into a half-meter (20-inch) strip of dirt and scratching against bushes behind, will not be enjoyable.
I clearly “vote” for this suggestion:
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I clearly “vote” for this suggestion:
Alex85 schrieb:
3) build a double carport with a separate storage area at the rear (not a garage, gaining driveway width by eliminating the garage wall)
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Otus11 schrieb:
50 cm or 50.1 cm are "up to 1 m" (Lower Saxony) 1 x No. @Kekse is correct. In Lower Saxony, the rule is either to build directly on the boundary or to maintain at least a 1 m (3.3 ft) distance.
Otus11 schrieb:
Build up to the boundary. Even if it’s allowed differently in Rhineland-Palatinate, I can only support this.
Skyfire schrieb:
In the utility room, the ventilation grille (outlet) of the air-to-water heat pump (Stiebel Eltron LWZ304) faces the garage/carport.This might be a bit off-topic, but are you sure this is what you want? Is the design final, or is it still possible to install a split system that vents somewhat away? That would also help to ease the carport issue...
I'm asking because we also have the same heat pump mentioned above, but our technical room is in the basement. Due to the noise level of the heat pump, I wouldn't want it on the ground floor. I think you will notice the humming noise during operation, or you should soundproof the utility room accordingly. We don’t have a soundproof door to the technical room, and you can clearly hear the pump in the basement hallway with the door closed, while upstairs on the stairs to the ground floor it is hardly audible anymore.
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