Hello!
Our construction started about 2.5 weeks ago, and we are currently planning the electrical system. We are wondering how to install internet in the house.
About the house:
The house is built using solid construction methods from Viebrockhaus. Radio waves barely pass through the ceiling between the ground floor (GF) and the upper floor (UF). On the UF, the interior walls are drywall with metal elements, which also blocks radio waves significantly.
For the ground floor:
We want to set up Wi-Fi with the router located in the utility room. This should provide coverage throughout the entire ground floor and help reduce electromagnetic pollution to some extent.
For the upper floor:
This question is more complex. We lean toward a LAN solution to minimize electromagnetic pollution.
Option 1: Run LAN cables through the empty conduits from the utility room to each room on the upper floor.
Option 2: Use powerline adapters (network over the electrical wiring).
-> We tend to choose the second option because there are more power outlets than LAN ports in each room. It is also somewhat cheaper, though the price difference is minor in a project of this scale.
What do you think? Will this solution work without problems, or are there limitations? Have you had any experience with this?
Thank you very much for your input.
Our construction started about 2.5 weeks ago, and we are currently planning the electrical system. We are wondering how to install internet in the house.
About the house:
The house is built using solid construction methods from Viebrockhaus. Radio waves barely pass through the ceiling between the ground floor (GF) and the upper floor (UF). On the UF, the interior walls are drywall with metal elements, which also blocks radio waves significantly.
For the ground floor:
We want to set up Wi-Fi with the router located in the utility room. This should provide coverage throughout the entire ground floor and help reduce electromagnetic pollution to some extent.
For the upper floor:
This question is more complex. We lean toward a LAN solution to minimize electromagnetic pollution.
Option 1: Run LAN cables through the empty conduits from the utility room to each room on the upper floor.
Option 2: Use powerline adapters (network over the electrical wiring).
-> We tend to choose the second option because there are more power outlets than LAN ports in each room. It is also somewhat cheaper, though the price difference is minor in a project of this scale.
What do you think? Will this solution work without problems, or are there limitations? Have you had any experience with this?
Thank you very much for your input.
Regarding e-smog: Wi-Fi (2.4 GHz) maximum allowed transmission power = 0.1 W.
Modern cell phones: maximum transmission power 2 W, which is 20 times higher than Wi-Fi and usually kept in the pocket/in immediate vicinity of the genitals.
Microwave ovens (also 2.4 GHz) between 800–1000 watts, which is 8,000 to 10,000 times higher than Wi-Fi (usually well shielded).
DECT phones (maximum 250 mW) or other 433 MHz remote-controlled sockets (maximum 500 mW).
Please evaluate for yourself whether Wi-Fi is really the biggest source of e-smog…
Modern cell phones: maximum transmission power 2 W, which is 20 times higher than Wi-Fi and usually kept in the pocket/in immediate vicinity of the genitals.
Microwave ovens (also 2.4 GHz) between 800–1000 watts, which is 8,000 to 10,000 times higher than Wi-Fi (usually well shielded).
DECT phones (maximum 250 mW) or other 433 MHz remote-controlled sockets (maximum 500 mW).
Please evaluate for yourself whether Wi-Fi is really the biggest source of e-smog…
Installation cables do not have stranded wires but a solid core. That’s why the explanation.
Whether duplex or 2x standard cable is used doesn’t really matter and depends on the preference of the person doing the installation. I currently have no experience with cable manufacturers, as I have only just used up my very old CAT 5e. I plan to order a spool of CAT7 from LW Electronic today, but I can only say how good it is after I have used it for the first time.
Since you mentioned costs: Who will handle what now? Is the electrician doing everything, or are you installing the cables and the electrician handling sockets, or are you doing everything yourself? Don’t forget the patch panel and terminating the cables, as well as the network cabinet. Switches and short patch cables can be organized later online as well.
I think your idea to make a diagram is good. Maybe you have someone in your circle of acquaintances who is knowledgeable in this area and can take an outside look at it. Over time, you tend to become “blind” to the setup.
Whether duplex or 2x standard cable is used doesn’t really matter and depends on the preference of the person doing the installation. I currently have no experience with cable manufacturers, as I have only just used up my very old CAT 5e. I plan to order a spool of CAT7 from LW Electronic today, but I can only say how good it is after I have used it for the first time.
Since you mentioned costs: Who will handle what now? Is the electrician doing everything, or are you installing the cables and the electrician handling sockets, or are you doing everything yourself? Don’t forget the patch panel and terminating the cables, as well as the network cabinet. Switches and short patch cables can be organized later online as well.
I think your idea to make a diagram is good. Maybe you have someone in your circle of acquaintances who is knowledgeable in this area and can take an outside look at it. Over time, you tend to become “blind” to the setup.
hanse987 schrieb:
Since you mentioned costs: Who will do what now? Will the electrician handle everything, or will you do the wiring and the electrician handle the outlet, or will everything be done DIY? Don't forget the patch panel, cable termination, and network cabinet. You can also order the switch and short patch cables later online.
I like your idea of drawing a plan. Maybe you have someone in your circle who’s knowledgeable and can take an external look. Over time, it’s easy to become “blind” to your own setup.I definitely want to buy the cable myself because I don’t want to rely on the electrician to install something properly on their own.
Furthermore, I would like to do the cable installation myself if possible.
However, my price inquiry was more about an all-in price excluding the cost of the cables, so basically a ready-to-use system.
You can basically use any standard CAT7 installation cable. They all meet the standards, so the differences are only marginal.
Whether you choose DRAKA, LAPP, BTR, LEONI, NEXANS, DÄTWYLER, or something completely different is actually irrelevant. I would only advise against no-name products at most.
Whether you choose DRAKA, LAPP, BTR, LEONI, NEXANS, DÄTWYLER, or something completely different is actually irrelevant. I would only advise against no-name products at most.
Sturkopf861 Sep 2018 23:20Hello everyone,
I am an electronics technician and this is how I wired my current house.
I used duplex Cat 7 network cables from the basement to every room. Duplex cables offer more flexibility; for example, you can move your router and still send a signal back. Never install just one cable—always use duplex.
Install a patch panel in the basement; with some basic DIY skills, you can do this yourself.
The wiring should be done centrally from each room back to the basement, in your case to the heating room.
If I were building a new house, I would install at least one network outlet with two connection ports on every wall of each room, which may be due to my profession. Additionally, I would place a network outlet in the hallway on each floor for an access point.
Costs:
Tool: LSA Plus tool around 25 euros
Network cable: 100-meter (330 feet) roll of duplex Cat 7 cable around 100 euros
Network outlet: Depending on the system, about 10 euros each
This information is my personal assessment if you want to do it yourself. Hiring a professional or electrician will cost you significantly more, which depends on whether you feel confident doing it yourself.
Best regards
I am an electronics technician and this is how I wired my current house.
I used duplex Cat 7 network cables from the basement to every room. Duplex cables offer more flexibility; for example, you can move your router and still send a signal back. Never install just one cable—always use duplex.
Install a patch panel in the basement; with some basic DIY skills, you can do this yourself.
The wiring should be done centrally from each room back to the basement, in your case to the heating room.
If I were building a new house, I would install at least one network outlet with two connection ports on every wall of each room, which may be due to my profession. Additionally, I would place a network outlet in the hallway on each floor for an access point.
Costs:
Tool: LSA Plus tool around 25 euros
Network cable: 100-meter (330 feet) roll of duplex Cat 7 cable around 100 euros
Network outlet: Depending on the system, about 10 euros each
This information is my personal assessment if you want to do it yourself. Hiring a professional or electrician will cost you significantly more, which depends on whether you feel confident doing it yourself.
Best regards
There are great systems from btr, and with lsa plus you’ve got the hang of it after working with just 2 junction boxes.
Oh dear, how many of those I had to assemble during my training. I really admire the electricians who have to follow my plan at our clients’ sites, so many cables.
Oh dear, how many of those I had to assemble during my training. I really admire the electricians who have to follow my plan at our clients’ sites, so many cables.
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