ᐅ Single-family home, approximately 1500 square feet, with 2 children’s bedrooms – What do you think of the floor plan?
Created on: 4 Aug 2018 14:18
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Stege90
Hello,
we have been offered a plot of land by a developer and would like to build our future home there. The plot is located at the end of a cul-de-sac in a traffic-calmed residential area (infilling development).
I should mention upfront that we have not yet received much information from the developer. We shared our rough requirements with him, and he has created a first draft, so far only for the ground floor.
It would be great if you could help us evaluate this early on before we progress too far in the planning and have to make major changes later.
The positioning of the house on the plot is due to the fact that all other options we considered would cast too much shadow on the rest of the plot.
The plot shown as undeveloped on the site plan has meanwhile been built on with a bungalow (marked). A carport will be constructed between the bungalow and our plot.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 750 m² (about 8,070 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: no information received yet
Plot ratio: no information received yet
Building window, building line, and boundary: no information received yet
Edge development: no information received yet
Number of parking spaces: no information received yet
Number of floors: no information received yet
Roof shape:
Architectural style:
Orientation: see image
Maximum heights / limits: ?
Additional requirements?
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: A mono-pitched roof was preferred to minimize sloping ceilings, but according to the developer and the development plan this is not permitted, so a gable roof was proposed – this still needs clarification.
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: currently 3 (28, 28, 1), planned: second child
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor: guest toilet, utility room, kitchen/dining room, living room; Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, office, bathroom
Office use: family or home office? office to be used occasionally as a mobile workspace; initially also as a guest room
Guests per year – every 3 months 2-4 people
Open or closed layout – rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: probably a mix
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen connected to dining room – no freestanding kitchen island; separation from dining area by a counter
Number of dining seats: minimum 6, option for a large dining table (big family)
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: yes, in the living room where the sofa is currently planned (wall on the left towards the carport); sofa arranged in an L-shape facing north and east – pictures might be hung on the wall towards the dining room
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage was requested, but we also like the current proposal
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be included:
Bathroom – T-shaped bathroom with shower cabin desired; a large washbasin
Walk-in closet not desired
No basement
Access via the garage/carport
House Design
Designed by:
- planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like and why? What do you dislike and why?
We definitely want the carport to be wider than in the initial floor plan – at least 4 meters (about 13 feet).
Noticeable is the missing entrance area, i.e. the actual front door. Initially, this seemed strange to us, but it provides many opportunities for the interior layout, so after some consideration we don’t find it so bad.
Price estimate according to architect/planner; personal price limit for the house, including fittings: approx. €260,000
Preferred heating technology: not discussed yet
If you have to give up something, which features/extensions
- can you do without: garage – already left out by the developer to enable the design without a main entrance area
- cannot do without: kitchen/dining area – pantry next to the kitchen
Why is the design like it is? For example:
We do not want a completely open living/dining area. Therefore, the living room should be a separate, closed room.
[U]What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think about the missing traditional entrance area?
Please feel free to criticize and offer suggestions for improvement. For now, the focus is on the house location on the plot and the ground floor layout. Since we are still at the beginning, many things are still changeable.
we have been offered a plot of land by a developer and would like to build our future home there. The plot is located at the end of a cul-de-sac in a traffic-calmed residential area (infilling development).
I should mention upfront that we have not yet received much information from the developer. We shared our rough requirements with him, and he has created a first draft, so far only for the ground floor.
It would be great if you could help us evaluate this early on before we progress too far in the planning and have to make major changes later.
The positioning of the house on the plot is due to the fact that all other options we considered would cast too much shadow on the rest of the plot.
The plot shown as undeveloped on the site plan has meanwhile been built on with a bungalow (marked). A carport will be constructed between the bungalow and our plot.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 750 m² (about 8,070 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: no information received yet
Plot ratio: no information received yet
Building window, building line, and boundary: no information received yet
Edge development: no information received yet
Number of parking spaces: no information received yet
Number of floors: no information received yet
Roof shape:
Architectural style:
Orientation: see image
Maximum heights / limits: ?
Additional requirements?
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: A mono-pitched roof was preferred to minimize sloping ceilings, but according to the developer and the development plan this is not permitted, so a gable roof was proposed – this still needs clarification.
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: currently 3 (28, 28, 1), planned: second child
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor: guest toilet, utility room, kitchen/dining room, living room; Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, office, bathroom
Office use: family or home office? office to be used occasionally as a mobile workspace; initially also as a guest room
Guests per year – every 3 months 2-4 people
Open or closed layout – rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: probably a mix
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen connected to dining room – no freestanding kitchen island; separation from dining area by a counter
Number of dining seats: minimum 6, option for a large dining table (big family)
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: yes, in the living room where the sofa is currently planned (wall on the left towards the carport); sofa arranged in an L-shape facing north and east – pictures might be hung on the wall towards the dining room
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage was requested, but we also like the current proposal
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be included:
Bathroom – T-shaped bathroom with shower cabin desired; a large washbasin
Walk-in closet not desired
No basement
Access via the garage/carport
House Design
Designed by:
- planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like and why? What do you dislike and why?
We definitely want the carport to be wider than in the initial floor plan – at least 4 meters (about 13 feet).
Noticeable is the missing entrance area, i.e. the actual front door. Initially, this seemed strange to us, but it provides many opportunities for the interior layout, so after some consideration we don’t find it so bad.
Price estimate according to architect/planner; personal price limit for the house, including fittings: approx. €260,000
Preferred heating technology: not discussed yet
If you have to give up something, which features/extensions
- can you do without: garage – already left out by the developer to enable the design without a main entrance area
- cannot do without: kitchen/dining area – pantry next to the kitchen
Why is the design like it is? For example:
We do not want a completely open living/dining area. Therefore, the living room should be a separate, closed room.
[U]What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think about the missing traditional entrance area?
Please feel free to criticize and offer suggestions for improvement. For now, the focus is on the house location on the plot and the ground floor layout. Since we are still at the beginning, many things are still changeable.
I’m interested in the detailed drawing showing how the toilet cistern is supposed to be built into the likely double-layered wall of the guest WC. The door to the open-plan kitchen should be hinged differently, with the door leaf opening towards the tall cabinets—otherwise, you really have to swing it open the way it’s drawn. The sharp kink in the carport roofline is a flaw that is already noticeable on the plan. Parents should regularly switch the sides of their beds: the twisting motion when lying down and getting up (due to the height differences) otherwise chronically affects the cervical spine.
The side view of the bathroom dormer is a poor joke; a clever detail expert would combine brick with facing bricks (slips).
Overall, the exterior of the house—especially due to its profile—has a strong 1950s “charm.” To me, it looks very much like a draftsperson’s work rather than an architect’s.
This won’t be a simple fix; everything will be turned upside down. Swapping that out casually in these dimensions just won’t work.
Well, that’s classic East Prussian taste, right?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
The side view of the bathroom dormer is a poor joke; a clever detail expert would combine brick with facing bricks (slips).
Overall, the exterior of the house—especially due to its profile—has a strong 1950s “charm.” To me, it looks very much like a draftsperson’s work rather than an architect’s.
Stege90 schrieb:
The currently drawn staircase will also be replaced by a landing staircase
This won’t be a simple fix; everything will be turned upside down. Swapping that out casually in these dimensions just won’t work.
Zaba12 schrieb:
Apparently, you live mostly in the dining room and kitchen—I can’t explain the layout any other way. The living room doesn’t have a single patio door???
Well, that’s classic East Prussian taste, right?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Would it be possible to move the carport and the utility shed about 1 to 1.5 meters (3 to 5 feet) north? This would create a passage between the house and the utility shed, allowing you to eliminate the second door on the utility shed. The front door could be relocated as well, and the guest bathroom could be made slightly larger or avoid door clearance issues. The wardrobe could then be positioned at a 90° angle to the utility room.
ypg schrieb:
Skip the pantry and use the space under the stairs as a pantry instead. The room can be better used as storage or a wardrobe closet. You really don’t have enough of the latter. What’s drawn in there is just enough for clothing currently in use during the season, but not for storing seasonal clothes.
I agree with you. You already have storage under the stairs and in the utility room, so why have this pantry of just under 5m² (about 54 sq ft)? It barely fits anything and only takes up space.
I really like Katja’s idea with the sliding door and the stairs. The floor plan she created is also excellent.
Take a look at the mirrored original plans from Grantlhaua.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Haus-Garage-auf-dem-Grundstück-platzieren.28491/page-9
#54. I think this would be ideal for you. Maybe he will share the plans with you.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Haus-Garage-auf-dem-Grundstück-platzieren.28491/page-9
#54. I think this would be ideal for you. Maybe he will share the plans with you.
In my opinion, the wall thicknesses are still not adequate everywhere. A staircase would not be installed on an 11.5 cm (5 inch) wall. Likewise, in the upper floor there are only 11.5 cm (5 inch) walls, which will not remain as is. I wouldn’t plan a bathroom used by three people right next to the children’s bedroom—the child will not be happy if they constantly hear the toilet flush or the shower.
I find the entrance to the living room and kitchen/dining area terrible; it is narrow and dark. A separate living room of about 20 square meters (215 square feet) looks like the living room of a three-room apartment, which is too small for a house. The wall installation spaces for plumbing and wiring are also missing in your plan. You cannot place the entrance directly under the carport (which is too narrow for that), as everyone would bump into the car, unless that doesn’t bother you.
Best regards,
Sabine
I find the entrance to the living room and kitchen/dining area terrible; it is narrow and dark. A separate living room of about 20 square meters (215 square feet) looks like the living room of a three-room apartment, which is too small for a house. The wall installation spaces for plumbing and wiring are also missing in your plan. You cannot place the entrance directly under the carport (which is too narrow for that), as everyone would bump into the car, unless that doesn’t bother you.
Best regards,
Sabine
Curly schrieb:
I find the entrance to the living room and kitchen/dining area really unpleasant; it’s cramped and dark. A separate living room of about 20sqm (215 sq ft) feels more like a living room from a three-room apartment, and this house is simply too small for that. The installation cavities are also missing from your plan. You can’t position the entrance directly under the carport (which is too narrow for that anyway) because everyone would bump into the car, unless you don’t mind that.
Best regards
SabineI’m not happy with the kitchen/living room layout either. But I can’t immediately think of a better solution.
I actually find the carport quite wide at about 4.5m (15 feet). You do have to be careful when driving in not to run over the front porch platform. I’m more concerned about that because it’s so low and therefore hard to see. Try sketching the front porch platform to scale in the floor plan.
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