ᐅ Land Acquisition – Initial Ideas in the Early Planning Stage

Created on: 17 Aug 2018 23:37
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polydeikes
Hello dear forum members,

We are not only new here, but also at the very beginning of our building considerations. Currently, the purchase of a plot of land is being finalized by a notary.

The plot immediately impressed us, even though we didn’t have any concrete ideas yet about how to build on it. We are now at the start of the planning phase / orientation process.

The attached sketches are the result of initial thoughts and a first discussion with a house construction company.

At this stage, we are grateful for any suggestions / considerations / shared practical experiences that could help us avoid detours.

Development plan / restrictions
Plot size – 680 sqm (7320 sqft)
Slope – slight decline of about 1.5 – 2 m (5 – 6.5 ft) over the entire depth of the plot, ground level at the street
Floor area ratio (FAR) – 0.4
Site coverage ratio – 0.8
Number of parking spaces – one in front of the garage, 5 m (16 ft) required
Number of storeys – 1.5 storeys, 2 storeys allowed
Roof shape – pitch 30–48 degrees, max. 0.87 m (2.9 ft) knee wall, dark color mandatory
Orientation – north / south as per sketches

Clients’ requirements
Build on slab foundation
2 people, planning for children started (max. 2), 4 dining seats

- Office as a dedicated and indispensable home office on the ground floor (approx. 11 sqm (118 sqft), one long wall without windows required)

- 2 bathrooms with showers (ground floor guest WC with shower and main bathroom upstairs) → 2 dogs

- The lady insists on having a pantry next to/by the kitchen and is not open to compromise on this

- Rather conventional construction method, no special requirements

Garage, carport – sketches show a 3 x 7 m (10 x 23 ft) garage with a door at the back right to access the terrace / garden

House design
Planning by: rough, initial planning discussion with a solid brick-and-mortar house company

Price estimate according to architect/planner – 255k house, 30k additional construction costs, 50k plot, 13k garage

Total including additional costs – around 350,000 euros

Preferred heating technology: undecided (air-to-water heat pump and underfloor heating are included in the “offered” house)

If you have to give up something, which details or expansions

- What you can do without:
These are already the “essential” specifications, so there is no possibility to “give up” anything without the lady burying me somewhere in the garden.

Floor plan of a house with kitchen, living room, bathroom, utility room, and office


Site plan of a building plot with red outline and blue area


Site plan of a plot with red outline and surrounding parcels


Abstract floor plan sketch with gray structures and white blocks on green background
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ypg
20 Aug 2018 23:33
And?
What’s the status?
I’m in favor of a gable roof with an 87cm (34 inches) knee wall, budgeting 90-95cm (35-37 inches) at the bottom, nicely including an office and a shower toilet. Upstairs, cleverly partition the knee wall areas so that around two-thirds of the upper floor is spacious living space with fewer steep, limiting slopes.
A cozy gable-roofed house on a great plot.
Danish home?
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polydeikes
21 Aug 2018 01:03
Currently, discussions with the bank regarding financial feasibility are ongoing, and the construction specification of the original house is with the structural engineer in the home financing department.

Over the weekend, I gathered some materials. I visited the Gussek house at the local model home center, but at first glance, it seems very expensive (GK3 / GK4). I also visited Danhaus, but the salesperson is on vacation. I collected brochures from a stair exhibition.

I was not able to fit our desired layout for the ground floor into a smaller two-story house. I will only continue considering this option once I receive feedback from the bank.

At the moment, I am leaning toward a house roughly based on the original 11 x 9 m (36 x 30 ft) dimensions, plus or minus a little.

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Personally, I have developed a visual preference for the exterior look of the Danhaus Engelsby with a panoramic bay window. However, we do not yet have any promotional prices or construction specifications to properly evaluate it.
11ant21 Aug 2018 01:57
ypg schrieb:
I am in favor of a gable roof with this 87cm (34 inches) knee wall, [...] then cleverly and skillfully partition the sloped side walls at the top,

I completely agree with you in principle, but please show how this clever partitioning of the sloped side walls is supposed to work in practice: with roof pitches of 30 to 48 °DN (degrees pitch), the difference between an 87cm (34 inches) knee wall and a 100cm (39 inches) dwarf wall is between 23cm and 12cm (9 inches and 5 inches) – this is the building depth of the sloped side including the dwarf wall.
polydeikes schrieb:
Personally, I have developed an aesthetic preference for the exterior appearance of the Danhaus Engelsby with panoramic bay window.

Good heavens, back to your corner!
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
kaho67421 Aug 2018 07:48
11ant schrieb:

Good gracious, get into the basket quickly!
I have always found Danhaus rather modest. But if you like it...
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ypg
21 Aug 2018 08:39
I don’t think they’re bad at all. I actually like them especially because of the low roofline. It creates a very cozy atmosphere, and the attic spaces feel that way too.
And yes: it has always been difficult to divide affordable living space in an urban villa.
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polydeikes
21 Aug 2018 10:44
Oh, what’s going on with Danhaus again? Was that referring to the purely visual aspect?