ᐅ KfW 70 or is it worth investing in KfW 40 Plus with significantly higher costs?
Created on: 12 Jul 2018 16:56
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PaddyOnAir
Hello,
I have selected two home builders and requested quotes based on my custom specifications.
Offer 1 is from Heinz von Heiden, building a KfW 70 house with a ground source heat pump.
Offer 2 is from Viebrockhaus, building a KfW 40 Plus house.
The Viebrockhaus offer is exactly €43,000 more expensive than Heinz von Heiden. However, I would still receive subsidies of €15,000 from the KfW bank and an additional €2,000 from BAFA if I choose to build the KfW 40 Plus house. This leaves a net difference of €26,000.
What do you think? Is the KfW 40 Plus house worth the extra €26,000, or would you prefer to go with the KfW 70 house from Heinz von Heiden?
I look forward to your advice.
I have selected two home builders and requested quotes based on my custom specifications.
Offer 1 is from Heinz von Heiden, building a KfW 70 house with a ground source heat pump.
Offer 2 is from Viebrockhaus, building a KfW 40 Plus house.
The Viebrockhaus offer is exactly €43,000 more expensive than Heinz von Heiden. However, I would still receive subsidies of €15,000 from the KfW bank and an additional €2,000 from BAFA if I choose to build the KfW 40 Plus house. This leaves a net difference of €26,000.
What do you think? Is the KfW 40 Plus house worth the extra €26,000, or would you prefer to go with the KfW 70 house from Heinz von Heiden?
I look forward to your advice.
PaddyOnAir schrieb:
Hello,
I have selected two house builders and requested quotes based on my individual specifications.
Offer 1 is from Heinz von Heiden built to KfW 70 standard with a ground source heat pump.
Offer 2 is from Viebrockhaus built to KfW 40 Plus standard.
Viebrockhaus is exactly 43,000 euros more expensive than Heinz von Heiden. However, I would receive subsidies from the KfW Bank of 15,000 euros and another 2,000 euros from BAFA if I decide to build to the KfW 40 Plus standard. So that leaves a difference of 26,000 euros.
What do you think? Is the KfW 40 Plus house worth it despite the 26,000 euros higher cost, or would you rather go for the KfW 70 house from Heinz von Heiden?
I look forward to your adviceIs the price for the 40 Plus house including photovoltaic panels and battery storage? And if so, which photovoltaic system and how large is the battery?
Keep in mind with the KfW subsidies that you don’t actually receive the money upfront—you just have to pay it back over a shorter period...
It’s nice to see that the skeptics of technology still provide sharp generalizations. That’s how it should be.
It has already been mentioned that the two home builders operate in different price ranges. This makes the comparison difficult, as the additional cost is not solely due to the KfW 40+ standard, assuming we are basically talking about the same building.
In addition to savings on heating costs from better insulation, electricity costs will be lower or even generate income thanks to the photovoltaic system and the storage battery. The 40+ standard also includes a ventilation system that adds comfort.
Viebrockhaus offers a 3-month construction time guarantee, doesn’t it? That also has value in terms of saved rent and cheaper financing, since less interest-free loan period is needed.
It has already been mentioned that the two home builders operate in different price ranges. This makes the comparison difficult, as the additional cost is not solely due to the KfW 40+ standard, assuming we are basically talking about the same building.
In addition to savings on heating costs from better insulation, electricity costs will be lower or even generate income thanks to the photovoltaic system and the storage battery. The 40+ standard also includes a ventilation system that adds comfort.
Viebrockhaus offers a 3-month construction time guarantee, doesn’t it? That also has value in terms of saved rent and cheaper financing, since less interest-free loan period is needed.
We also looked into Viebrockhaus back then. I would say it is one of the most reliable and secure ways to build a house. However, it is also among the most expensive options.
On the other hand, Heinz von Heiden, which builds quite affordably, cannot be compared to Viebrockhaus in terms of features and scope of construction services. I think these two are worlds apart. With Viebrockhaus, you can move into a "standard" house without significant additional costs for selections. With Heinz von Heiden, you usually have to add quite a bit to make it look “nice.”
From that point of view, I find the additional cost relatively low, if you want to compare them this way.
On the other hand, Heinz von Heiden, which builds quite affordably, cannot be compared to Viebrockhaus in terms of features and scope of construction services. I think these two are worlds apart. With Viebrockhaus, you can move into a "standard" house without significant additional costs for selections. With Heinz von Heiden, you usually have to add quite a bit to make it look “nice.”
From that point of view, I find the additional cost relatively low, if you want to compare them this way.
Compare the scope of work for both and, if possible, the material selection. Only when these are the same will you know the exact difference. Often, the "more expensive" providers have a better scope of work and lower additional costs for upgrades.
For example, tiles: if you want large-format tiles, this may cost extra with one or both.
Electrical outlets, flooring, and so on.
For example, tiles: if you want large-format tiles, this may cost extra with one or both.
Electrical outlets, flooring, and so on.
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PaddyOnAir13 Jul 2018 09:50fragg schrieb:
Is the price for the 40+ house including the PV system and battery storage? If so, which PV system and what is the size of the battery?
Keep in mind with the KfW subsidy, you don’t actually *have* the money. You just pay it off over a shorter period... Yes, the price includes the photovoltaic system and battery storage. From the company Sun Power. Unfortunately, I don’t know the size of the battery.
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