ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.









As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
We used Poroton blocks for all walls, and all pipes and electrical cables are installed inside the interior walls (with one exception in the guest bathroom, because it borders the neighboring house).
Looking at your photos, I’m torn between admiration (how does he manage to endure this? I would have lost all motivation for my dream house by now, seeing how incompetent people mess things up) and relief (that so far we seem to have had only skilled craftsmen who immediately fixed any minor mistakes).
Looking at your photos, I’m torn between admiration (how does he manage to endure this? I would have lost all motivation for my dream house by now, seeing how incompetent people mess things up) and relief (that so far we seem to have had only skilled craftsmen who immediately fixed any minor mistakes).
The "work sockets" are planned to be installed at a height of 1150 mm (45 inches) according to the kitchen furniture layout, but it is not specified whether this is measured from the floor level or without accounting for any skirting board height.
I see the pipe and cable ducting running up to the window – not the perfect solution, but the least visually intrusive option.
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I see the pipe and cable ducting running up to the window – not the perfect solution, but the least visually intrusive option.
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R.Hotzenplotz9 Jul 2018 08:42You mean like this?

This really reminds me of your comment that you expect to sell the house again in two years. For me, there are gradually too many serious issues for me to imagine living like this in the long term. I already hate this house! It’s been ruined beyond repair. Clearly, several people involved completely failed in their jobs. How can anyone plan a wall like that in the kitchen?
I have no idea what exactly I should now tell the electrician based on that.
This really reminds me of your comment that you expect to sell the house again in two years. For me, there are gradually too many serious issues for me to imagine living like this in the long term. I already hate this house! It’s been ruined beyond repair. Clearly, several people involved completely failed in their jobs. How can anyone plan a wall like that in the kitchen?
11ant schrieb:
The "working sockets" are supposed to be installed according to the kitchen furniture layout at a height of 1150 mm (45 inches), but without specifying whether that’s above or below sea level.
I have no idea what exactly I should now tell the electrician based on that.
Phew, feeling resentful towards the new house while having to invest a lot of money in it is a really frustrating combination.
But I understand your frustration.
A question regarding improving the look of the kitchen: are the upper cabinets absolutely necessary? Is there otherwise not enough storage space? If not, I would consider leaving them out entirely. As shown in the picture above, they no longer appear symmetrical and look like an awkward attempt rather than a deliberate design. It would be better to leave them out.
Do you have a downdraft extractor, or was an extractor planned inside one of the upper cabinets?
If a standard extractor wasn’t planned, then I would opt for a good lighting solution and omit the upper cabinet. That way, the boxed ceiling section won’t be as noticeable.
Personally, I would also prefer it without the boxed ceiling section.
But I understand your frustration.
A question regarding improving the look of the kitchen: are the upper cabinets absolutely necessary? Is there otherwise not enough storage space? If not, I would consider leaving them out entirely. As shown in the picture above, they no longer appear symmetrical and look like an awkward attempt rather than a deliberate design. It would be better to leave them out.
Do you have a downdraft extractor, or was an extractor planned inside one of the upper cabinets?
If a standard extractor wasn’t planned, then I would opt for a good lighting solution and omit the upper cabinet. That way, the boxed ceiling section won’t be as noticeable.
Personally, I would also prefer it without the boxed ceiling section.
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R.Hotzenplotz9 Jul 2018 09:15Climbee schrieb:
Phew, feeling hatred towards the new house and having to spend a lot of money on it. A really unfortunate combination.Yes, with some luck, the shortage of land might put us in a situation where we can sell later and come out with only minor losses. For example, we had friends visiting who didn’t understand why little things like the small patio doors bothered me so much. Apparently, some people simply don’t pay much attention to details, no idea why.
Climbee schrieb:
Do you have a downdraft extractor, or was an extractor planned inside one of the upper cabinets?Extractor in the upper cabinet.
Climbee schrieb:
Question about visually improving the kitchen: are the upper cabinets absolutely necessary?I need to look at it calmly; everything was planned in detail. And now none of it is feasible. Right now, I’m just fed up and don’t feel like dealing with it anymore.
What I find hard to believe is that both experts said this is normal?
Does that mean you have to accept it? That pipes are either visible everywhere or need to be boxed in?
Yes, built-in wall sections are common in bathrooms, but surely not in the kitchen?
I understand that you’re already frustrated, but please don’t forget: while building, you focus on every issue and everything that doesn’t fit... you notice every tiny gap that’s off and, in your case, every pipe...
Believe me, if you had bought a finished house, you wouldn’t notice any of this and would just live with it...
Try to make the best of it...
Does that mean you have to accept it? That pipes are either visible everywhere or need to be boxed in?
Yes, built-in wall sections are common in bathrooms, but surely not in the kitchen?
I understand that you’re already frustrated, but please don’t forget: while building, you focus on every issue and everything that doesn’t fit... you notice every tiny gap that’s off and, in your case, every pipe...
Believe me, if you had bought a finished house, you wouldn’t notice any of this and would just live with it...
Try to make the best of it...
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