ᐅ Master bathroom layout

Created on: 7 Nov 2017 16:02
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hi!

What do you think about this master bathroom layout?

We didn’t really want the shower to be so hidden since we plan to outfit it in a high-quality and stylish way. It would be nice if it could be more visible, not just for showering. But during the plumbing planning, we were advised to keep it like this (because of the water pipes).

What’s your opinion? Or does anyone have an idea on how to create more visibility into the shower?

The two washbasins are marked incorrectly. We will only use one washbasin (1m wide (39 inches)). Our idea is to move the bathtub to where the washbasins are currently shown and place the washbasin on the right wall instead. We want the bathtub to have a prominent spot in the room instead of being “in the corner” when we bathe.

Currently planned components:
Toilet: Duravit Happy D.2 extended version, 25500900001

Washbasin: Villeroy & Boch Venticello 1000x500mm (39x20 inches), 4104ALR1

Bathtub: still considering either Villeroy & Boch Squaro Edge 12 Combipool Invisible (UIP190SQE2B1V96) or a Kaldewei Conoduo, both 190x90cm (75x35 inches) (235200010001)

Shower:
Villeroy & Boch shower tray Futurion or Squaro Infinity
Hansgrohe Axor ShowerSolutions thermostat module Select 530 / 90 for 3 outlets, 18356000
Hansgrohe Axor Shower Solutions 350 1jet overhead shower with ceiling connection, chrome, 26035000
Keuco meTime_spa waterfall showerhead, 59982010000
Hansgrohe Axor Starck 1jet handheld shower, chrome, 10531000

Looking forward to your feedback!

Grundriss eines Badezimmers: Badewanne rechts, zwei Waschbecken in der Mitte und Toilette links.
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Alex85
22 Jun 2018 22:51
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Which exact product are you considering? I already shared our item number.

I don’t have it yet; the quote should arrive in the next few days.

However, the demonstration was extremely impressive. Regular rain showers are simply annoying when you have long hair. You just can’t rinse it out properly. There isn’t enough pressure or the "rush" of water. My wife uses the handheld showerhead, while I turn the rain shower to full power.

Another one of those "must-haves" that, based on experience, you wouldn’t buy again.
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R.Hotzenplotz
22 Jun 2018 22:56
Our fine installer has now made us worried that the shower won’t function properly if my wife is bathing at the same time. Both areas will each be served by a 16mm (5/8 inch) pipe, and he says that will be very tight.

In general, he also thinks that the pipe size is too small for the shower in the Powder Rechtsanwältin area, since 26 liters per minute flow continuously at 3 bar, and he doesn’t understand why a 20mm (3/4 inch) pipe wasn’t installed. He plans to calculate the flow rate or something similar over the weekend and then give me a final answer. In any case, he says the 190cm by 90cm (75 inches by 35 inches) bathtub will take ages to fill with a 16mm (5/8 inch) pipe.

The assessor wants to refer us to another expert who can inspect both the plumbing and electrical installations. That way, everything would be thoroughly checked.
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Alex85
22 Jun 2018 23:04
Do you have a circulation system?
That's not my main focus, but in the picture I think I can see a circulation system... I find smaller cross-sections more justifiable when no circulation system is installed (3-liter rule). Why save just a few dollars on a larger cross-section then...?

I believe the Hansgrohe PowderRain was rated under 20 liters (5 gallons)...
11ant23 Jun 2018 01:09
You leave me speechless. Do people really shower with this kind of latest high-tech using ordinary municipal water, or with Perrier?
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R.Hotzenplotz
23 Jun 2018 06:54
11ant schrieb:
You leave me speechless. Do people really shower with this kind of latest high-tech using ordinary tap water, or with Perrier?

What exactly leaves you speechless? The water consumption or the discussion about the cross-section?
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R.Hotzenplotz
23 Jun 2018 07:15
This is what our overhead shower looks like, along with the technical specifications, Alex85.

AXOR ShowerSolutions overhead shower 350 ceiling connection chrome large shower head


I don’t know about the circulation aspect; nothing was discussed about that. I will have to ask.

If I want to request corrections, I need to specifically refer to building standards or similar regulations. Otherwise, it’s unlikely they will make any changes.

My plumber also said that using a 16mm (5/8 inch) pipe to fill a 190 x 90 cm (75 x 35 inch) bathtub isn’t very practical. While someone is showering, neither the shower nor filling the bathtub is enjoyable. However, such a general statement doesn’t help me much. If anything, I need to tell the general contractor that, based on this and that water consumption, the following pipe size is required... according to DIN XXX or similar. Something along those lines. Otherwise, if I just call and question it, I get technical jargon that I don’t understand and that’s meant to justify the current setup.

My own plumber now wants to calculate the flow rate for the master bathroom.