ᐅ Offer for a single-family house, 2 full stories, basement plus an additional floor—what do you think?
Created on: 12 Jun 2018 13:53
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chewbacca123
Hello everyone,
we are currently in the planning stage and are in talks with three construction companies. Our house will be built on a slope with a 3.5 m (11.5 ft) drop over 34 m (111.5 ft). The land is 26 m (85 ft) wide, with a total area of 881 sqm (9,485 sq ft).
We have almost finished the floor plans for both levels. In the "basement," meaning the lower ground floor, we will have a bedroom, main bathroom, guest room, and utility room. Through the utility room, you can access our hobby room, as well as a cellar garage (or carport).
What still bothers us is that the living room should have a minimum width of 3.70 m (12 ft); 3.51 m (11.5 ft) is too narrow for us. What could be changed?
We are experiencing a planning block... :-( Do you have any other tips for us? Attached are the floor plans.
We will probably have a kitchen island.
Turnkey price including all painting and floor installation, including a double carport and storage room with cellar garage, was quoted at 412,000 Euros.
An extract from the offer:
It is a solid construction with a ventilation system Wolf Comfort CWL residential ventilation, underfloor heating (air-to-water heat pump); underfloor heating on the lower and upper floors (calculation based on energy certificate)
with separate controls (room thermostats) in every room; heating in the utility room / house connection room but no separate control; no heating in the hobby room!
Tiles at 25 €/sqm (2.32 $/sq ft), bay window with balcony on top, roof overhang all around at least 60 cm (24 inches), roof covering with Koramic clay tiles, triple-glazed windows with burglar resistance (some floor-to-ceiling), sliding door to the balcony, 2 outdoor water taps.
Aluminum front door, white or colored on both sides according to color chart, push/pull handle and lever set, security profile cylinder lock, steel bolt locking with 3 hinges, multiple burglary-resistant features.
Non-load-bearing interior walls on the living floors made of gypsum plasterboard stud walls about 15 cm (6 inches), including double-layer sound insulation, OSB reinforcement in utility room / kitchen, WC and bathrooms. Electric shutters on all elements (switch and connection at the window), high-voltage connection (for possible external plastering after moving in), 1 connection each for telephone and TV or CAT 6 cables (in 6 rooms).
Interior and exterior window sills made of granite. Interior stairs: cantilevered solid wood staircase with railing.
No terrace, no landscaping, we will pave the terrace and driveway/carport ourselves.
Do you think this is reasonable? We welcome any advice.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards
Ina
we are currently in the planning stage and are in talks with three construction companies. Our house will be built on a slope with a 3.5 m (11.5 ft) drop over 34 m (111.5 ft). The land is 26 m (85 ft) wide, with a total area of 881 sqm (9,485 sq ft).
We have almost finished the floor plans for both levels. In the "basement," meaning the lower ground floor, we will have a bedroom, main bathroom, guest room, and utility room. Through the utility room, you can access our hobby room, as well as a cellar garage (or carport).
What still bothers us is that the living room should have a minimum width of 3.70 m (12 ft); 3.51 m (11.5 ft) is too narrow for us. What could be changed?
We are experiencing a planning block... :-( Do you have any other tips for us? Attached are the floor plans.
We will probably have a kitchen island.
Turnkey price including all painting and floor installation, including a double carport and storage room with cellar garage, was quoted at 412,000 Euros.
An extract from the offer:
It is a solid construction with a ventilation system Wolf Comfort CWL residential ventilation, underfloor heating (air-to-water heat pump); underfloor heating on the lower and upper floors (calculation based on energy certificate)
with separate controls (room thermostats) in every room; heating in the utility room / house connection room but no separate control; no heating in the hobby room!
Tiles at 25 €/sqm (2.32 $/sq ft), bay window with balcony on top, roof overhang all around at least 60 cm (24 inches), roof covering with Koramic clay tiles, triple-glazed windows with burglar resistance (some floor-to-ceiling), sliding door to the balcony, 2 outdoor water taps.
Aluminum front door, white or colored on both sides according to color chart, push/pull handle and lever set, security profile cylinder lock, steel bolt locking with 3 hinges, multiple burglary-resistant features.
Non-load-bearing interior walls on the living floors made of gypsum plasterboard stud walls about 15 cm (6 inches), including double-layer sound insulation, OSB reinforcement in utility room / kitchen, WC and bathrooms. Electric shutters on all elements (switch and connection at the window), high-voltage connection (for possible external plastering after moving in), 1 connection each for telephone and TV or CAT 6 cables (in 6 rooms).
Interior and exterior window sills made of granite. Interior stairs: cantilevered solid wood staircase with railing.
No terrace, no landscaping, we will pave the terrace and driveway/carport ourselves.
Do you think this is reasonable? We welcome any advice.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards
Ina
chewbacca12313 Jun 2018 16:29Zaba12 schrieb:
The quote is missing quite a few things, including the complete drainage system with a foul-water-capable lifting station. The tile quantities are underestimated, etc. There will be a lot more coming your way that you don’t know about yet.
The planning and fittings look more like 500,000 € plus extra, since the bathrooms will cost you much more than what the quote suggests. If the general contractor budgets 25 €/m² for tiles, I can already imagine what the sanitary fittings in the offer look like. You won’t want those.We already have the brochures. For tiles in the hallway and bathrooms, we can get ones we like for 25 €/m² (about 2.3 $/ft²). The 30 € (about 2.8 $/ft²) he budgets for, for example, living areas, we won’t reach because we want wood planks there, but the extra 2,000 - 3,000 € (about 2,200 - 3,300 $) cost is acceptable.
The equipment, such as the ventilation system, is from a good manufacturer. The sanitary installations are also of good standard. That works for us; maybe some items will get an upgrade, but otherwise, it’s fine.
chewbacca12313 Jun 2018 16:31Zaba12 schrieb:
The quote is missing quite a few things, including the complete drainage system with a sewage-compatible lifting station. The amount of tiles is also underestimated, etc. There will still be quite a bit coming your way, things you don’t know yet.
The planning with the fittings looks more like 500,000€ plus additional costs, because the bathrooms will also cost you much more than the quote suggests. If the general contractor plans tiles at €25 per sqm (approximately $25 per sq ft), then I can already imagine what the sanitary installations in the offer look like. You definitely won’t want that.He provided us with a separate list of all these additional costs, which are not included in the quote, such as the water connection, house service connection, rainwater and sewage inspection chamber, electricity supply including earthworks, telecommunications, construction power, surveying and cadastre, and more.
That adds up to about another €18,000 (approximately $18,000).
Zaba12 schrieb:
You don’t have to justify yourself here. It’s your call how big the living room should be.
But I can swear on it...
As I said, it’s your decision.It was not a demand to justify yourself, but rather a suggestion to consider it carefully.
chewbacca12313 Jun 2018 19:10niri09 schrieb:
It wasn’t meant as a request for justification, but rather a suggestion to reflect on it.The living room is now wider, 3.76 m (12.3 ft). Currently, in our apartment, it is 4 m (13.1 ft). We arranged the sofa as it would be with 3.76 m (12.3 ft), and that really works well :-)
There is still plenty of length because the dining table is placed closer to the kitchen.
You could still comfortably put something like a reading chair there.
chewbacca12313 Jun 2018 20:48niri09 schrieb:
If it works for you, then everything is fine. I just wanted to point out that I personally find it very tight, and you still have the option to make changes.
I wish you much successThank you :-)