ᐅ Offer for a single-family house, 2 full stories, basement plus an additional floor—what do you think?
Created on: 12 Jun 2018 13:53
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chewbacca123
chewbacca12312 Jun 2018 13:53Hello everyone,
we are currently in the planning stage and are in talks with three construction companies. Our house will be built on a slope with a 3.5 m (11.5 ft) drop over 34 m (111.5 ft). The land is 26 m (85 ft) wide, with a total area of 881 sqm (9,485 sq ft).
We have almost finished the floor plans for both levels. In the "basement," meaning the lower ground floor, we will have a bedroom, main bathroom, guest room, and utility room. Through the utility room, you can access our hobby room, as well as a cellar garage (or carport).
What still bothers us is that the living room should have a minimum width of 3.70 m (12 ft); 3.51 m (11.5 ft) is too narrow for us. What could be changed?
We are experiencing a planning block... :-( Do you have any other tips for us? Attached are the floor plans.
We will probably have a kitchen island.
Turnkey price including all painting and floor installation, including a double carport and storage room with cellar garage, was quoted at 412,000 Euros.
An extract from the offer:
It is a solid construction with a ventilation system Wolf Comfort CWL residential ventilation, underfloor heating (air-to-water heat pump); underfloor heating on the lower and upper floors (calculation based on energy certificate)
with separate controls (room thermostats) in every room; heating in the utility room / house connection room but no separate control; no heating in the hobby room!
Tiles at 25 €/sqm (2.32 $/sq ft), bay window with balcony on top, roof overhang all around at least 60 cm (24 inches), roof covering with Koramic clay tiles, triple-glazed windows with burglar resistance (some floor-to-ceiling), sliding door to the balcony, 2 outdoor water taps.
Aluminum front door, white or colored on both sides according to color chart, push/pull handle and lever set, security profile cylinder lock, steel bolt locking with 3 hinges, multiple burglary-resistant features.
Non-load-bearing interior walls on the living floors made of gypsum plasterboard stud walls about 15 cm (6 inches), including double-layer sound insulation, OSB reinforcement in utility room / kitchen, WC and bathrooms. Electric shutters on all elements (switch and connection at the window), high-voltage connection (for possible external plastering after moving in), 1 connection each for telephone and TV or CAT 6 cables (in 6 rooms).
Interior and exterior window sills made of granite. Interior stairs: cantilevered solid wood staircase with railing.
No terrace, no landscaping, we will pave the terrace and driveway/carport ourselves.
Do you think this is reasonable? We welcome any advice.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards
Ina
we are currently in the planning stage and are in talks with three construction companies. Our house will be built on a slope with a 3.5 m (11.5 ft) drop over 34 m (111.5 ft). The land is 26 m (85 ft) wide, with a total area of 881 sqm (9,485 sq ft).
We have almost finished the floor plans for both levels. In the "basement," meaning the lower ground floor, we will have a bedroom, main bathroom, guest room, and utility room. Through the utility room, you can access our hobby room, as well as a cellar garage (or carport).
What still bothers us is that the living room should have a minimum width of 3.70 m (12 ft); 3.51 m (11.5 ft) is too narrow for us. What could be changed?
We are experiencing a planning block... :-( Do you have any other tips for us? Attached are the floor plans.
We will probably have a kitchen island.
Turnkey price including all painting and floor installation, including a double carport and storage room with cellar garage, was quoted at 412,000 Euros.
An extract from the offer:
It is a solid construction with a ventilation system Wolf Comfort CWL residential ventilation, underfloor heating (air-to-water heat pump); underfloor heating on the lower and upper floors (calculation based on energy certificate)
with separate controls (room thermostats) in every room; heating in the utility room / house connection room but no separate control; no heating in the hobby room!
Tiles at 25 €/sqm (2.32 $/sq ft), bay window with balcony on top, roof overhang all around at least 60 cm (24 inches), roof covering with Koramic clay tiles, triple-glazed windows with burglar resistance (some floor-to-ceiling), sliding door to the balcony, 2 outdoor water taps.
Aluminum front door, white or colored on both sides according to color chart, push/pull handle and lever set, security profile cylinder lock, steel bolt locking with 3 hinges, multiple burglary-resistant features.
Non-load-bearing interior walls on the living floors made of gypsum plasterboard stud walls about 15 cm (6 inches), including double-layer sound insulation, OSB reinforcement in utility room / kitchen, WC and bathrooms. Electric shutters on all elements (switch and connection at the window), high-voltage connection (for possible external plastering after moving in), 1 connection each for telephone and TV or CAT 6 cables (in 6 rooms).
Interior and exterior window sills made of granite. Interior stairs: cantilevered solid wood staircase with railing.
No terrace, no landscaping, we will pave the terrace and driveway/carport ourselves.
Do you think this is reasonable? We welcome any advice.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards
Ina
chewbacca123 schrieb:
We are currently in the middle of the planning phase and are in discussions with three construction companies. And what you are showing here comes from one of the providers and serves as the benchmark for the other two?
The guest room and bathroom are two spaces whose layouts don’t quite convince me yet, but overall it looks rather nice. The slope at one point is designed really close to the window sill ;-)
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
What about the soil excavation? I mean digging out, storing it on the side, and disposing of it? Your plot doesn’t just slope away at a 90-degree angle from the access road and then remain flat all the way to the property boundary, right?
I guarantee you’ll be shocked by the cost of disposing of excavated soil. If you have even close to as much excavation as I did—and you probably will—it will cost you €20,000 to €30,000 at best for good quality soil. If the soil is contaminated (organic material, gravel, too coarse grain size, etc.), you can expect 3 to 4 times that amount.
Calculate how much excavation you’ll have!
I just received a quote today for 900 cubic meters of loose soil excavation at €23,000 🙂. The actual volume dug out is only 750 cubic meters, but that doesn’t count :-p
I guarantee you’ll be shocked by the cost of disposing of excavated soil. If you have even close to as much excavation as I did—and you probably will—it will cost you €20,000 to €30,000 at best for good quality soil. If the soil is contaminated (organic material, gravel, too coarse grain size, etc.), you can expect 3 to 4 times that amount.
Calculate how much excavation you’ll have!
I just received a quote today for 900 cubic meters of loose soil excavation at €23,000 🙂. The actual volume dug out is only 750 cubic meters, but that doesn’t count :-p
chewbacca12312 Jun 2018 21:37Hey, thanks for your reply. This fixed price of €412,000 (approximately $446,000) covers the house including the earthworks and the carport.
However, regarding the earthworks, the following applies:
During construction, necessary measures due to different geotechnical conditions (soil bearing capacity at least 250 kN/m² (51 psf)) and hydrogeological conditions (no slope, stratification, or groundwater up to 30 cm (12 inches) below the slab) are not included.
We still need to clarify exactly what this means.
However, regarding the earthworks, the following applies:
During construction, necessary measures due to different geotechnical conditions (soil bearing capacity at least 250 kN/m² (51 psf)) and hydrogeological conditions (no slope, stratification, or groundwater up to 30 cm (12 inches) below the slab) are not included.
We still need to clarify exactly what this means.
To clarify, your "earthworks" item does not include removing excess soil. To be even more clear: transportation and disposal are not included without having read your offer.
Why do you think on eBay Classifieds within a 25km (15.5 miles) radius of your or my location there are 20–30 builders begging who have half as much or even less excavated soil to get rid of than you will have?
The "earthworks": digging and storing soil on the side costs me a mere 2,000€.
Why do you think on eBay Classifieds within a 25km (15.5 miles) radius of your or my location there are 20–30 builders begging who have half as much or even less excavated soil to get rid of than you will have?
The "earthworks": digging and storing soil on the side costs me a mere 2,000€.
chewbacca12313 Jun 2018 07:15Okay, can the excavated soil not be used to prepare the outdoor area?
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