ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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R.Hotzenplotz
18 May 2018 12:09
Climbee schrieb:
Well... a house costing half a million and then cutting corners on the expert inspector... that can backfire badly.

I wouldn’t call it cutting corners. The expert is hired exactly to the extent he himself recommended for a project like this. He will also see the holes in the bricks during the next scheduled phase, when the roof structure is installed.

The neighbor sent the following message today (I talked with him for about an hour on the site yesterday evening):
"Good that the wind is blowing all the dust away from us today. From a distance, you might think the house is on fire. But they’re just constantly smoothing out (‘spots’) by cutting bricks. You can barely see the worker through all the dust. Safety glasses and helmets seem overrated. Oh well. Have a nice day!"

But I don’t really have any influence over the dust or enforcement of helmet rules (I don’t even know the exact legal requirements for when someone must wear a helmet, dust mask, etc.).

Construction site of a single-story brick building with scaffolding around the house and a crane standing to the right.
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haydee
18 May 2018 13:00
The expert should definitely take a look at this.

Whether personal protective equipment (PPE) is worn is up to the construction company or the accident insurance provider.

Based on the description, I expected more dust. This is not much for a construction site.
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ruppsn
18 May 2018 13:35
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:

"Good thing the wind is blowing everything away from us today. From a distance, you might think the house is on fire. But they’re just constantly cutting stones to even out (“spots”). You can hardly see the craftsman through all the dust. Safety goggles and helmet are overrated. Whatever. Have a nice day!"

This makes me think of only three things:
1. Complaining.
2. If you ask me, this is about something else entirely, and the dust story is just an outlet, not the real issue. I would try to find out what that is, to get to the root of the problem and resolve it.
3. Or the neighbor might just be a grumpy type, chronically dissatisfied and thinking “everyone is always against me.” In that case, I would honestly say something and make it clear that enough is enough. In my opinion, there’s little to lose because the complaining and causing trouble will almost certainly continue. Unfortunately, some people enjoy stirring things up, and trying to appeal to their empathy or compromise won’t help, because it’s not about that. Just my two cents. Good luck [emoji4]
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ypg
18 May 2018 13:57
ruppsn schrieb:
Only three things come to my mind:
1. Complaining
2. If you ask me, this is about something completely different; the dust issue is just an outlet, not the real problem. I would probably try to find out what’s really going on, to get to the root of all evil and resolve the matter once and for all.
3. Or the neighbor might just be a grumpy type, chronically dissatisfied and feeling like “everyone is always against me.” In that case, I would make a clear statement and signal that enough is enough. You wouldn’t lose much in my opinion, because the nagging and causing trouble will definitely continue. Unfortunately, some people just enjoy stirring up trouble; understanding or compromise won’t help because that’s not what it’s about. Just my two cents. Good luck [emoji4]

I read the message quite differently. Somehow, to me, it sounds a bit ironically humorous.

Tell me, Hotzenplotz: had you already tried to contact the neighbor and introduce yourself beforehand? You planned for a long time, so a few visits, even during the demolition of the old building, are inevitable. Usually, you start conversations well before that; the second and third steps happen over a construction beer on their terrace, and so on... people complain less when acquaintanceship bonds hold together.
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Matthew03
18 May 2018 14:06
I also have the feeling that the situation with the neighbor might turn into a never-ending story... I see it exactly the same way as @ruppsn, both points 2 and 3.
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R.Hotzenplotz
18 May 2018 19:10
ypg schrieb:
Tell me, Hotzenplotz: had you contacted the neighbor beforehand and introduced yourselves?

Yes, we rang the doorbell, introduced ourselves in person, explained the general plan (demolition, etc.), and had a fairly normal conversation for quite some time. I also left my card and said they could get in touch if anything didn’t go as expected or if there were any issues.

Regarding points 2) and 3), I can say that I understand that situation. On the other side of the neighbor’s property, a demolition and new construction were completed recently as well. There is now a proper villa with high-end finishes. I have often heard comments indicating that the attitude toward that neighbor is not very positive... they laid so many water pipes in the garden, spent a lot on water features, and even hired a chef to entertain their guests. He also told me that, in the house opposite the back of our garden, there are noise disturbances in the evening because the glass in the conservatory causes echoes, and you can hear everything live. He had to call the police to restore quiet, and the residents then shouted outside that some jerk had called the police. It’s also clear that relations with the previous owners of our property were not good. They had a dog, which caused problems. A fence was installed, etc.