ᐅ Bungalow with a gable roof, edge development, 8 by 17 meters
Created on: 29 Apr 2018 22:51
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Grit Stephan
Hello,
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
I like the L-shape much better and it’s a version I would have tried next.
Why?
Because the living area basically captures all the sunny sides. Also, you can design terraces all around it, extending even to the northwest.
Plus, the long corridor could be used to relocate, for example, the wardrobes from the bedrooms—like a long built-in wardrobe wall or something similar.
What I still can’t quite understand is why the children's rooms and bedrooms in your plan always have to face the 6m (20 feet) wide green strip in the southeast.
Why?
Because the living area basically captures all the sunny sides. Also, you can design terraces all around it, extending even to the northwest.
Plus, the long corridor could be used to relocate, for example, the wardrobes from the bedrooms—like a long built-in wardrobe wall or something similar.
What I still can’t quite understand is why the children's rooms and bedrooms in your plan always have to face the 6m (20 feet) wide green strip in the southeast.
Grit Stephan3 May 2018 22:49@Nordlys
Yes, very cool.
Thanks for the pictures.
Let’s see how this fits into the overall budget.
Which parts did you do yourself? Insulation, I assume?
And theoretically, (even though it’s not our plan) could it still be expanded later?
You never know what the kids might do with the house in the future...
Yes, very cool.
Thanks for the pictures.
Let’s see how this fits into the overall budget.
Which parts did you do yourself? Insulation, I assume?
And theoretically, (even though it’s not our plan) could it still be expanded later?
You never know what the kids might do with the house in the future...
Grit Stephan3 May 2018 23:06kbt09 schrieb:
What I still can’t quite understand is why your children's rooms and bedroom always have to face the 6-meter (20 feet) wide green strip in the southeast.On one hand: there are houses to the north and west.
And to the east and south is nature… just the view…
I grew up like that… We were surrounded only by nature and tall, beautiful old trees… Our yard was secluded and quiet on one side…
Everyone had their privacy, and yes, we were good friends with the neighbors.
Also, I think it’s because I like being outdoors a lot. That’s why the caravan… Not because of campgrounds… We often just went somewhere in nature with the caravan…
I have always liked sleeping outside in the garden.
As a teenager, my best friends and I sometimes just slept outdoors. Not spontaneously or because we were drunk. No, we enjoyed it.
And woke up at night alert, thinking wild boars were coming, but it was just hunger…
Basically, as much as possible, everything takes place outdoors.
And often, all windows and doors are open, and you really feel part of the living room, the children’s rooms, and the kitchen…
If it were possible, I would slide the entire front to the side in summer and basically live and sleep outside…
I don’t know if this makes sense, but it’s just a “feeling”…
But the bedroom is usually not a common living area, so it would ease the requirements if a north or northeast orientation is considered here — without any southern exposure. Under these conditions, I especially find it very nice when the living area can benefit all around and is not cut off to the southeast. And houses facing west — given the size of the plot, you can already have plenty of your own greenery in front of it — and if you plan your own garage there, nicely landscaped.
Yes, I already mentioned this in my earlier posts: You can plant trees in every corner of the property, at least along the edges.
Then you won’t see the neighbors and will have greenery in front of the windows or in the broader view, with lawn in between...
You have all the options to design the property. It is long enough in both the west and east directions for that.
I would make sure to get light into the living areas, especially the dining room, and include a terrace at the house that benefits from sunlight in the summer as well.
The bedrooms can be on the north side. Children can have very different preferences, but natural light from outside is generally preferred. This can be from the east and/or west… one of the kids will probably like it.
However, I would always aim for slim, straight wall lines—few corners and edges—to create a noticeable sense of spaciousness, even if the space is actually more limited.
I need to check if I can still find my bungalows.
Then you won’t see the neighbors and will have greenery in front of the windows or in the broader view, with lawn in between...
You have all the options to design the property. It is long enough in both the west and east directions for that.
I would make sure to get light into the living areas, especially the dining room, and include a terrace at the house that benefits from sunlight in the summer as well.
The bedrooms can be on the north side. Children can have very different preferences, but natural light from outside is generally preferred. This can be from the east and/or west… one of the kids will probably like it.
However, I would always aim for slim, straight wall lines—few corners and edges—to create a noticeable sense of spaciousness, even if the space is actually more limited.
I need to check if I can still find my bungalows.
Grit Stephan4 May 2018 10:43That all sounds quite logical.
Of course, the view in the other directions isn’t bad either… but when I imagine it, I start to doubt and think, no, better to have everything facing this side...
But I’m also afraid that later I’ll wish we had built it differently… That’s why we are considering different options.
Regarding the idea of having the living room facing south, with windows on the east, south, and west sides—either as a bay window or an L-shape—and the bungalow being wider than the current railcar-like layout:
On paper, there is enough space, but when we stand on the plot, it feels like we are taking up too much space along the long side, or we somehow split that “strip” there. (the poplar tree is about 3-4 meters (10-13 feet) into the plot)
That’s why the living room ended up on the back, facing east.
We “tried” standing at the house corners, and from there the strip toward the ditch doesn’t feel like enough space to build on… and at the back, facing east, there is a nice large area that gets sunlight from all sides, at least as long as the trees to be planted don’t shade the entire plot—which the poplar already does further forward. (But it’s already settled that we are allowed to prune at least on the property side. (the timing is still open))
If I place the L-shape kind of backwards, rotated (so the bay window is where the sofa is now in the railcar), it gets tight again near the ditch, right? I think we really need to mark it out with a tape measure and then see where we end up.
We probably just have no sense of the “dimensions”…
How far the walls on the side would reach, how they change the views or break up the space, or something like that.
Or maybe we should first set up a scaffolding with tarps and cloth on the plot.
It really is hard to estimate lengths and heights.
Edit: I took the photo standing at the northeast corner here.
Of course, the view in the other directions isn’t bad either… but when I imagine it, I start to doubt and think, no, better to have everything facing this side...
But I’m also afraid that later I’ll wish we had built it differently… That’s why we are considering different options.
Regarding the idea of having the living room facing south, with windows on the east, south, and west sides—either as a bay window or an L-shape—and the bungalow being wider than the current railcar-like layout:
On paper, there is enough space, but when we stand on the plot, it feels like we are taking up too much space along the long side, or we somehow split that “strip” there. (the poplar tree is about 3-4 meters (10-13 feet) into the plot)
That’s why the living room ended up on the back, facing east.
We “tried” standing at the house corners, and from there the strip toward the ditch doesn’t feel like enough space to build on… and at the back, facing east, there is a nice large area that gets sunlight from all sides, at least as long as the trees to be planted don’t shade the entire plot—which the poplar already does further forward. (But it’s already settled that we are allowed to prune at least on the property side. (the timing is still open))
If I place the L-shape kind of backwards, rotated (so the bay window is where the sofa is now in the railcar), it gets tight again near the ditch, right? I think we really need to mark it out with a tape measure and then see where we end up.
We probably just have no sense of the “dimensions”…
How far the walls on the side would reach, how they change the views or break up the space, or something like that.
Or maybe we should first set up a scaffolding with tarps and cloth on the plot.
It really is hard to estimate lengths and heights.
Edit: I took the photo standing at the northeast corner here.
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