ᐅ Bungalow with a gable roof, edge development, 8 by 17 meters
Created on: 29 Apr 2018 22:51
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Grit Stephan
Hello,
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
Nordlys schrieb:
The design by kbt is only reasonably affordable to build with shed roofs. Which I also find more attractive in the "wagon" layout.
ypg schrieb:
Also, take a look at the plan by @Steffi33. From what I recall, she had the same ideas as you and implemented them in a similar way. Unfortunately, there is also a huge hallway, but she is happy with the house. However, her house doesn’t have that "wagon" feel. And if I remember correctly, her second concept worked out, while the first one was quite different.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Steffi33 schrieb:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/attachments/Grundriss-jpg.14461/
Best regards, SteffiThank you very much.
I like the idea of converting the guest bathroom into a utility room and then adding stairs to the roof.
This way, the hallway doesn’t feel like a corridor full of doors.
But does this also make sense if the utility room with storage is accessed several times a day?
@Nordlys and @ant11 Is a mono-pitched roof not more problematic with wind loads on the "higher side"? What is the best roofing method for a mono-pitched roof, and how do the costs compare to a gable roof? In principle, we are not opposed to a mono-pitched roof, but we can’t quite imagine it — being only on one side, might it look too much like a garage...?
Grit Stephan schrieb:
But does it make sense if the utility room with storage is accessed several times a day? You usually don’t do laundry when you have guests (bathroom users). Theoretically, I would have preferred the order of access the other way around here, but practically, where the door to the hallway would be, the electrical panel is located.
Grit Stephan schrieb:
@ant11 Isn’t a shed roof less comfortable regarding wind load hitting the "higher side"? antElef – I don’t know that animal. What do you mean by wind load against the “higher side”?
I think the “ridge side” (in terms of height) faces south.
Grit Stephan schrieb:
How much is the cost difference compared to a gable roof? I suspect it will be about the same price. The “missing angle” doesn’t really save anything; the structure is essentially the same, it just runs straight through.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
I have developed the earlier sketch into a more individual design. By the way, I never considered the hipped roof shown there. The initial floor plan was mainly about the basic concept.
The gable roof has now been extended, and above the open living area, a gable roof is practically added as well. One could also consider leaving out the intermediate ceiling there.
Children’s rooms are located in the southwest, parents’ rooms in the northeast. The office is just a corner in the parents’ area. The laundry machines are also in the parents’ area. The technical room is mainly for some storage, since there is quite a lot of storage space available in many places. For example, in the children’s hallway, there could be a cupboard for the vacuum cleaner, bedding, and towels.
In the hallway of the children’s area, shoe cabinets could be placed; the entrance area offers enough space to accommodate a guest wardrobe and seasonal jackets with accessories for a family of four.
The northwest terrace is fully covered and has direct access from the kitchen. It is an ideal place for grilling on summer evenings.
The dining area is now marked with a dining table measuring 120 x 300 cm (47 x 118 inches). The sofa corner is almost 300 cm (118 inches) wide.
Green areas indicate the driveway with a caravan parking space plus house access. Brown areas are mainly terraces.







The gable roof has now been extended, and above the open living area, a gable roof is practically added as well. One could also consider leaving out the intermediate ceiling there.
Children’s rooms are located in the southwest, parents’ rooms in the northeast. The office is just a corner in the parents’ area. The laundry machines are also in the parents’ area. The technical room is mainly for some storage, since there is quite a lot of storage space available in many places. For example, in the children’s hallway, there could be a cupboard for the vacuum cleaner, bedding, and towels.
In the hallway of the children’s area, shoe cabinets could be placed; the entrance area offers enough space to accommodate a guest wardrobe and seasonal jackets with accessories for a family of four.
The northwest terrace is fully covered and has direct access from the kitchen. It is an ideal place for grilling on summer evenings.
The dining area is now marked with a dining table measuring 120 x 300 cm (47 x 118 inches). The sofa corner is almost 300 cm (118 inches) wide.
Green areas indicate the driveway with a caravan parking space plus house access. Brown areas are mainly terraces.
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