ᐅ Cut Out Roof Section in Garage Area – Experiences

Created on: 12 Apr 2018 13:18
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NanDe
Hello!

Our general contractor (GC) informed us that we need to notch out the house roof in the garage area because the garage roof is higher than the house eaves. Unfortunately, we don’t understand this at all, and the GC didn’t have any picture to illustrate it.

For some background: we are building the garage ourselves (with a friend who is a mason) and were actually ready to start already. Then the GC said we should wait because there were height issues. We can begin once the roof is adjusted. This is now done, and the current instruction is that the house roof must be notched out. Since we have absolutely no knowledge of this topic, my question is whether there is any alternative to notching out the roof? If not, do you have a picture showing what that looks like?
wrobel13 Apr 2018 02:25
Hello,

just imagine the garage a bit higher as shown in the drawing.
The gutter then doesn’t run over the garage but up to the garage.
Where there is currently no gutter, the rainwater from the house flows onto the garage roof.
The general contractor saves some gutter there. Additionally, a bit of plumbing work is needed at the connections.
Basically, there are no major issues.

Olli
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NanDe
13 Apr 2018 07:56
11ant schrieb:
Then I don’t understand the problem: this conflict usually occurs when the general contractor only draws the garage as a placeholder in the plan (because it is sourced separately) and does not coordinate their planning accordingly.

I also don’t understand how this could have happened. I will pin down the general contractor for an answer today.
11ant schrieb:
If something has to be notched out there, either the garage is higher than in the plan and/or the house was built lower (or has a lower floor-to-ceiling height?).

The floor-to-ceiling height of 2.75m (9 feet) fits.
11ant schrieb:
Just imagine the garage is higher. Then the roof has to step back there, seen from above it looks similar to a parking bay. Along the garage the rafters are shortened and the gutter shifts up by one or more rows of roof tiles.

I can’t really imagine that looking good (to put it nicely).
wrobel schrieb:
Hello,

just picture the garage slightly higher like in the drawing.
The gutter then does not run over the garage but up to the garage.
Where there is currently no gutter, the rainwater from the house drains onto the garage roof.
The general contractor saves on guttering there. Additionally, a bit of sheet metal work is required at the transitions.
Basically, no major problems.

Olli

If it were just as you described, it would be only half as bad. But since the general contractor spoke of notching out the main roof, I suspect it’s more like what 11ant described.
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NanDe
13 Apr 2018 11:53
Finally reached the general contractor. The knee wall of 25cm (10 inches) is missing! It was still included in the drawing for the building permit/planning permission, but not in his execution plans. My response was simply that I don’t care what plans he has now; we agreed on 25cm (10 inches). He only said that he can’t just tear down the entire roof now. However, we are not willing to accept a makeshift solution just because they forgot the knee wall in the execution plan. I guess without a lawyer we probably won’t get much further :-(
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Maria16
13 Apr 2018 11:57
Phew, quite a challenge. First, take a deep breath and let it settle over the weekend.

Will the contractor get back to you next week with suggestions on how they plan to solve the problem? Or do they see it as inevitable?

Have you approved or signed off on the construction drawings in any form?
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NanDe
13 Apr 2018 12:11
We have an appointment on Monday. But honestly, I would like to have this resolved before the weekend. Otherwise, I won’t be able to relax... I’m really stressed.
He sees it as inevitable. In his opinion, we would have had problems with the height anyway because we are choosing a swing gate. But that was clear to him from the start. He said that sectional doors are always shown in the drawings.
We have not approved the execution plans and have never even seen them. We only saw and signed the plans for the building permit / planning permission.
11ant13 Apr 2018 13:08
NanDe schrieb:
The knee wall of 25cm (10 inches) is missing! [...] His only response was that he can’t tear down the entire roof again now.

Not "can’t" – must. The legal fees are likely to be money well spent.

In other words: if the house and garage had been contracted from the same company, the botched work would have only been noticed later. He must have known this already when he advised waiting before starting the garage construction. Hopefully, you documented this suggestion from him (and the timing as well), as it will make it easier for the lawyer to appeal to the general contractor’s common sense.
NanDe schrieb:
In his opinion, we would have had problems with the height anyway because we are using a swing gate. But he knew that from the start too. He said sectional doors are always shown in the drawings.

I really can’t follow his logic here again.
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