ᐅ Urban villa of approximately 200 sqm without a basement. Please provide your feedback.
Created on: 11 Apr 2018 09:51
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mrs_bauherrin
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 587 sqm (6,316 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio
Gross floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary lines
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: no restrictions
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation
Maximum height / restrictions – to neighbor: 0.4 m (15.7 inches) x eaves height
Other requirements: none
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa with hip roof and 2 full floors
Basement: no, floors: 2
Number of occupants: 3 (female 31, male 28, child 2)
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: approx. 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office use: family use rather than home office
Annual overnight guests: 1
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen: no door between kitchen and dining area, with kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes, water-heated
Music/soundwall: no
Balcony: yes, roof terrace: no
Garage: yes, 1 parking space; carport: yes, 2 parking spaces
Utility garden: preferred but not yet planned, greenhouse: possibly
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for choices
Laundry room was moved to the upper floor because there is hardly any space on the ground floor and the technical room is already very tight without washer and dryer. It was important to me to be able to dry laundry directly on the balcony, at least in warm weather.
We will have a cantilevered staircase and an open space above. Access from the garage to the house was important to me. I feel there is a lack of storage space for provisions, but maybe the kitchen will be big enough since we will have a side-by-side fridge again. We rarely use canned goods.
House Design
Who planned it: architect and many personal drafts
- Builder’s planner
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Cantilevered staircase with glass railing (which means I don’t mind cleaning it), balcony with glass railing, open living-dining area with fireplace.
What do you dislike? Why? The technical room takes up so much space and bothers me, but a basement was too expensive in terms of cost-benefit.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 400,000 with 60,000 own contribution (window construction and installation, glass railing)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: see above
Preferred heating system: heat pump
Additionally, controlled mechanical ventilation, and if budget allows, some connected home technology
If You Have to Give Up Something, which details / extensions
- Can you give up? Child 1’s room is a bit too large – the bathroom might get bigger.
- Can’t give up? Large children’s rooms >16 sqm (172 sq ft), high ceiling on ground floor 2.70 m (8.86 ft), large kitchen, 2 showers in the house
Why Has the Design Turned Out Like It Has?
For example: Standard design from the planner? Initially we wanted a central T-shaped staircase, but due to lack of space it became a straight cantilevered staircase.
Which requests were implemented by the architect? All
A mix of many examples from various magazines: yes, especially the one with the red V
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? We took a long time, about 1.5 years, for the final planning
What Is the Most Important / Fundamental Question About the Floor Plan in 130 Characters or Less?
We would simply like to hear a third opinion again; often you don’t notice something that others see immediately.
What I also want to mention: Storage room = office and playroom but also with space for buckets, vacuum cleaner, etc.
The bathroom on the upper floor will be enlarged and child 1’s room slightly reduced.
Site plan is still to be created.
Plot size: 587 sqm (6,316 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio
Gross floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary lines
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: no restrictions
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation
Maximum height / restrictions – to neighbor: 0.4 m (15.7 inches) x eaves height
Other requirements: none
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa with hip roof and 2 full floors
Basement: no, floors: 2
Number of occupants: 3 (female 31, male 28, child 2)
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: approx. 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office use: family use rather than home office
Annual overnight guests: 1
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen: no door between kitchen and dining area, with kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes, water-heated
Music/soundwall: no
Balcony: yes, roof terrace: no
Garage: yes, 1 parking space; carport: yes, 2 parking spaces
Utility garden: preferred but not yet planned, greenhouse: possibly
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for choices
Laundry room was moved to the upper floor because there is hardly any space on the ground floor and the technical room is already very tight without washer and dryer. It was important to me to be able to dry laundry directly on the balcony, at least in warm weather.
We will have a cantilevered staircase and an open space above. Access from the garage to the house was important to me. I feel there is a lack of storage space for provisions, but maybe the kitchen will be big enough since we will have a side-by-side fridge again. We rarely use canned goods.
House Design
Who planned it: architect and many personal drafts
- Builder’s planner
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Cantilevered staircase with glass railing (which means I don’t mind cleaning it), balcony with glass railing, open living-dining area with fireplace.
What do you dislike? Why? The technical room takes up so much space and bothers me, but a basement was too expensive in terms of cost-benefit.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 400,000 with 60,000 own contribution (window construction and installation, glass railing)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: see above
Preferred heating system: heat pump
Additionally, controlled mechanical ventilation, and if budget allows, some connected home technology
If You Have to Give Up Something, which details / extensions
- Can you give up? Child 1’s room is a bit too large – the bathroom might get bigger.
- Can’t give up? Large children’s rooms >16 sqm (172 sq ft), high ceiling on ground floor 2.70 m (8.86 ft), large kitchen, 2 showers in the house
Why Has the Design Turned Out Like It Has?
For example: Standard design from the planner? Initially we wanted a central T-shaped staircase, but due to lack of space it became a straight cantilevered staircase.
Which requests were implemented by the architect? All
A mix of many examples from various magazines: yes, especially the one with the red V
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? We took a long time, about 1.5 years, for the final planning
What Is the Most Important / Fundamental Question About the Floor Plan in 130 Characters or Less?
We would simply like to hear a third opinion again; often you don’t notice something that others see immediately.
What I also want to mention: Storage room = office and playroom but also with space for buckets, vacuum cleaner, etc.
The bathroom on the upper floor will be enlarged and child 1’s room slightly reduced.
Site plan is still to be created.
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toxicmolotof12 Apr 2018 08:22@Ant11
A few columns and pillars can certainly be placed in the front yard. In my opinion, apart from the roof as a whole, it mostly follows one architectural style.
@TE
Better get used to this language now than later. During the construction phase, things are much rougher. You can say whatever you want, but nothing will change. Since you have mostly expressed your arguments (if they can be accepted as such) beforehand, I could already take them into account in my response.
So while the tone may be harsh, it gets to the point.
I can put it differently:
A 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) house, where a storage room (office/storage) becomes a children’s bedroom at midday (which is not a bad idea in itself), the parents’ bedroom can’t fit a 200x200 cm (79x79 inch) bed, and the wastewater system does not work properly, is simply in need of optimization. And the view (of what?) must be especially good while washing dishes. While washing dishes! If there is any view there at all, living space (not a dishwashing area) should be placed there first.
Either the architect was pressured with too many “must-haves” and simply can’t deliver, lacked the necessary courage, or the architect is more of a draftsman than an architect. For a fee of at least 40,000 euros, I would expect significantly better work in the long run. But you are not at the end of the development process yet.
And if you like it that way: then build it like that, and don’t ask for criticism if you can’t handle it.
A few columns and pillars can certainly be placed in the front yard. In my opinion, apart from the roof as a whole, it mostly follows one architectural style.
@TE
Better get used to this language now than later. During the construction phase, things are much rougher. You can say whatever you want, but nothing will change. Since you have mostly expressed your arguments (if they can be accepted as such) beforehand, I could already take them into account in my response.
So while the tone may be harsh, it gets to the point.
I can put it differently:
A 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) house, where a storage room (office/storage) becomes a children’s bedroom at midday (which is not a bad idea in itself), the parents’ bedroom can’t fit a 200x200 cm (79x79 inch) bed, and the wastewater system does not work properly, is simply in need of optimization. And the view (of what?) must be especially good while washing dishes. While washing dishes! If there is any view there at all, living space (not a dishwashing area) should be placed there first.
Either the architect was pressured with too many “must-haves” and simply can’t deliver, lacked the necessary courage, or the architect is more of a draftsman than an architect. For a fee of at least 40,000 euros, I would expect significantly better work in the long run. But you are not at the end of the development process yet.
And if you like it that way: then build it like that, and don’t ask for criticism if you can’t handle it.
toxicmolotow schrieb:
@Ant11
And the view (of what?) has to be really good when washing dishes. When washing dishes! If there is any view at all, there should first be living space there (not a washing area).
.We have always had a window right by the sink and we really like it. In our current house, we have a 2.25m (7 ft 5 in) wide window that runs directly into the countertop. I think it’s wonderful to be able to look outside while washing dishes (and you also do other tasks at the sink). I would never want to stand in front of a wall at the sink.
Best regards,
Sabine
The issue of the sink is secondary. You can certainly do it that way if that’s what you prefer.
But I believe everyone agrees that more functionality could be gained from this amount of square meters. I hope the original poster doesn’t get discouraged or reject changes outright just because they feel attacked.
But I believe everyone agrees that more functionality could be gained from this amount of square meters. I hope the original poster doesn’t get discouraged or reject changes outright just because they feel attacked.
Maria16 schrieb:
The topic of the sink is secondary. You can certainly do it that way if you like.
...Or like this: you can definitely do it that way if it’s feasible and doesn’t negatively affect other aspects that generally hold greater importance (e.g., functionality, cost, logic).
mrs_bauherrin schrieb:
and ignore the – warning, quote – "absurd, pointless" snap decisions of some candidates. The undecided First is right, though; I would also reduce the roof pitch by four to five degrees.
toxicmolotow schrieb:
I think, apart from the roof as a whole, it largely follows one architectural style. American Neo-Modern.
toxicmolotow schrieb:
And the view (of what?) needs to be especially good at the sink. At the sink! If there is a view there, the primary living space (not the utility area) belongs there first. Quality of living during household chores should not be dismissed. Tasks like washing salad or chopping beans are activities where “suitable domestic conditions” should be taken into account. And the best view is of one’s own playing children. Even while sewing. When washing the car, you’re outside anyway and don’t need a window for that view. But then again, if the children are playing on the street, you can see them…
Maria16 schrieb:
But I think everyone agrees that more use could be made of this number of square meters. However, I would significantly reduce the “floor area” parameter (roughly about ten percent lengthwise and widthwise, so about twenty percent overall). The usability can be improved through “qualitative” measures (less design focus, more furniture-oriented window placement), meaning that losing some surface area can be done without pain.
Incidentally, that alone already pays for the extra cost of the stairs and then some.
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