ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
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pffreestyler1 Apr 2018 01:06ypg schrieb:
... and being able to speak the uncomfortable truth [emoji2][emoji106]That’s not what I meant. I have no problem with different opinions – they are often even helpful.
That will be bright enough. Otherwise, just turn on a lamp. We have a similar hallway and don’t see it as a problem. Ours is also 18 m² (194 ft²). Doors are always left open. The living room door has glass panels, the front door has glass, done. I don’t understand why the hallway shouldn’t be considered living space. That’s where she irons, where the grandchildren set up the play carpet and the toy gas station, where the cat has its basket. There are two dressers in there—that’s a kind of room, too.
One more tip. Install a patio door to the unfinished attic space above. Also, add one or two roof windows (Velux) in the roof at the same time. This brings natural light into the hallway, and a door like that won’t warp. If you decide to finish the attic later, the door can be removed and reused somewhere else, like in a greenhouse or similar. There’s always some use for it.
I hadn’t paid much attention to this thread so far because the design is so poor that it doesn’t even warrant a comment. Others have already said enough about it and will continue to do so.
But this is specifically for Karsten: Man, I really like you, but here you’ve clearly gotten stuck on something that is completely unclear to everyone else and me. This thing is a lost cause – with your endorsements, you’re only confusing the original poster. No hard feelings.
But this is specifically for Karsten: Man, I really like you, but here you’ve clearly gotten stuck on something that is completely unclear to everyone else and me. This thing is a lost cause – with your endorsements, you’re only confusing the original poster. No hard feelings.
Katja, then our own design is wasted too. We built almost the same and are very satisfied with it. The bedroom is now larger for the two of them and without corners, the hallway smaller. The other things that everyone criticizes—hallway, long distances, mudroom, two dining areas, two doors, and so on—are exactly what they want, and we do too, or they don’t bother us. Yesterday we had the traditional egg hunting at our house with children and grandchildren, six people. Everything quickly moving to the living room and back, no problem, everyone pitching in, many hands, and it was over quickly. Now my wife and I are having dinner together in the kitchen. Since everything is covered in deep snow today, I’m glad to have a utility room as an airlock and a back door when you need to go outside. The hallway is definitely very clean. We enjoy living like this, and apparently so does the original poster with his girlfriend.
I think Karsten feels somewhat personally attacked here and is defending the design so strongly because he sees a close comparison to his own house. But there is a difference between building for a future family with small children and building for two people approaching retirement.
To the original poster: It doesn’t really matter to me what your house ends up looking like. I don’t care whether a child’s bedroom is accessible from the living room or how well your child handles the "noise." It has to work for you in the end, and if certain personal preferences (like a rotated ridge) suddenly get dropped just to avoid making other changes, then I don’t see any reason or possibility to continue the discussion.
Edit: I just saw Karsten’s last comment. I guess I was right that he feels personally attacked…
To the original poster: It doesn’t really matter to me what your house ends up looking like. I don’t care whether a child’s bedroom is accessible from the living room or how well your child handles the "noise." It has to work for you in the end, and if certain personal preferences (like a rotated ridge) suddenly get dropped just to avoid making other changes, then I don’t see any reason or possibility to continue the discussion.
Edit: I just saw Karsten’s last comment. I guess I was right that he feels personally attacked…
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