ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Nobody here really understands the whole back door thing except those who grew up in rural Schleswig-Holstein. Not even Yvonne, who’s kind of a Hamburg local, so she’s out. Our front door is almost always locked, the back door always open. Everyone, everyone, everyone, and often people just use the back door.
Regarding the kitchen: if you mainly eat there, the distance to the living room doesn’t really matter since you rarely carry anything into the living room. If you like it that way, just keep it. The bowl of red cabbage, the mixed roast on either side, gravy, and Linda potatoes can easily be carried together those few meters when it’s time.
Some people quickly forget that the “good” table serves purposes other than just eating. My wife sets up her sewing machine there. Our granddaughter sits and tinkers. At Christmas, to the kids’ delight, I set up part of the toy train on it, so of course, no eating happened then—the daughter had to make do with that. So, having a table like that in the living area is definitely useful.
The corridor and straight staircase do take up space, that’s true. If you want to think completely differently, try this: you could leave out one room and make another bigger instead. Karsten
Regarding the kitchen: if you mainly eat there, the distance to the living room doesn’t really matter since you rarely carry anything into the living room. If you like it that way, just keep it. The bowl of red cabbage, the mixed roast on either side, gravy, and Linda potatoes can easily be carried together those few meters when it’s time.
Some people quickly forget that the “good” table serves purposes other than just eating. My wife sets up her sewing machine there. Our granddaughter sits and tinkers. At Christmas, to the kids’ delight, I set up part of the toy train on it, so of course, no eating happened then—the daughter had to make do with that. So, having a table like that in the living area is definitely useful.
The corridor and straight staircase do take up space, that’s true. If you want to think completely differently, try this: you could leave out one room and make another bigger instead. Karsten
This floor plan is really unusually poor. A huge hallway that leads "around the corner" at the very edge of the house to get to the living room. From the sofa to the kitchen refrigerator is quite a walk. The walls of the bedroom and living room don’t appear to be parallel. In the kitchen, there is a 1m (3 ft) wide window facing north, so you would need a light on during the day to see your food. The bedroom also remains dark. To me, this is more like a floor plan from 100 years ago, and I would also consider the resale value.
Best regards,
Sabine
Best regards,
Sabine
Nordlys schrieb:
Nobody here really understands the back entrance except those who grew up in rural Schleswig-Holstein. Not even Yvonne, who is kind of like a Hamburg local, so she’s out. Our front door is almost always locked, the back door is always open. Everyone, everyone, everyone often comes in through the back door.
About the kitchen: If you mainly eat there, then the distance to the living room doesn’t really matter, since you rarely carry anything into the living room. If you like it that way, then keep it. The bowl of red cabbage, the mixed roast on the left and right, gravy, and Linda potatoes—when it’s time—you can easily carry those few meters together.
People often forget that the “good” table serves other purposes besides food. My wife sets up her sewing machine there. Our granddaughter sits and plays there, and at Christmas, to the children’s delight, I set up part of the train set on it. So, of course, the table isn’t used for meals then, which my daughter had to accept. So, having such a table in the living room is definitely useful.
The hallway and straight staircase do take up space, that’s true. If you want to rethink completely, try this: you can leave out a room and instead make another one bigger. KarstenThat may be true, that certain regional customs exist. At my grandparents’ place, nobody entered through the main door either; everyone went straight into the garden through the terrace door.
But you need to be able to afford that. And in my opinion, this floor plan can’t afford to waste valuable space on a door that isn’t really necessary.
The same applies to the dining table. Of course it makes sense. But you need to be able to afford the space.
So, either the floor plan will need significant revisions, or some areas will have to be reduced.
There was already a comment that we need to check if the budget will still be enough for an attic conversion. To be honest, I’m quite pessimistic—once a child arrives, the available money decreases and the general cost of living tends to rise. I find it hard to imagine that there will eventually be funds left for an attic conversion. On top of that, the garden is probably not yet financially planned for. Especially with a child, the garden will also need to be completed at some point.
Why exactly does it need to have so much floor space? Would it be an option to build significantly smaller and include the attic conversion in the initial planning?
Why exactly does it need to have so much floor space? Would it be an option to build significantly smaller and include the attic conversion in the initial planning?
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