ᐅ How to Plan the Process for Building Your Own Single-Family Home?
Created on: 15 May 2011 16:27
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Bubb
Hello everyone,
As a complete beginner, I need your help with a rough outline of the process for building a single-family house.
Until about three weeks ago, I hadn’t even considered building a house in my wildest dreams, until my wife, during a business trip one evening in her hotel room, was browsing “Immoscout” again.
This had happened quite often over the years, but until now, there had been a natural barrier in and around Munich that kept me from such adventures as buying real estate: THE PRICE LEVEL.
What was new this time was that my wife was looking for plots of land – and, strangely enough, a plot was offered just one town over from us, right in a quiet, pleasant residential area.
It was part of the garden area of an older single-family house. The land was split due to generational reasons and put up for sale.
Building permission (building permit / planning permission) was already granted, fully serviced, etc. Before I even realized what was happening, I found myself standing with my wife and the real estate agent on a meadow that somehow had the ability to pull my savings out of my pocket.
I never intended to go into debt for a house or limit myself for 30 years like my parents did.
My condition was that we could pay for the plot “in cash,” and when the seller learned that we didn’t need financing for the land, he reduced the price by almost €25,000, and just like that, I lost – the plot was bought a few days later.
The seller was interested in a very quick closing.
The current status: money gone (a little over €300,000), plot secured.
I have since become convinced that, in our case, ownership is better than renting, especially since our rent is almost €1,900 per month including utilities.
The very next day, I went to a house exhibition to gather information.
My first impressions were rather unpleasant. As soon as some salespeople found out that we already had a plot, the hard-selling tactics started: appointments, intensive talks, and I felt extremely pressured, which I made very clear to them.
Everyone claimed to be the best, everyone had the best product, everything was individual, and so on.
With other providers, I encountered a lot of arrogance because I was dressed in jeans and a polo shirt. Four days later, when I came straight from the office in a suit, they were suddenly very polite, offering drinks and snacks (same salespeople).
What is clear for us is that we need a general contractor (builder).
The house should be built with solid construction and a basement (about 160 sqm (1,722 sq ft) excluding basement area) and must be completed with as little personal contribution as possible since we lack experience in construction work.
For us, one option would be to have the basement and ground floor fully finished, with the upper floor left for later completion.
Now, our questions are: How should one proceed?
Should we secure financing first (about €350,000) and then look for a general contractor?
(Problem: banks require information about the house, which doesn’t even exist in planning yet, e.g., gross volume, sqm according to “DIN something” etc.)
Or should we plan the house first and then arrange financing?
We already have quite specific ideas regarding the house, floor plan, and room layout (pitched roof 35° - 38°, knee wall height 70 cm (28 inches), and building envelope legally fixed).
How should one approach general contractors? Do they already design a complete house without any contractual basis? (All plans, development plans, etc., are available.)
Are the salespeople specialists or just “salespeople”?
Does one take a single plan and present it to several general contractors, or does each one create their own plan/layout?
Will you receive the floor plans?
Can you take the construction specification documents before signing and compare them?
(Selection of materials before signing — I want to know in advance what we are buying.)
How many meetings are typical? How transparent are the cost breakdowns for individual items? (Basement, architectural services, plumbing, electrical, etc.)
What is usual and what is not? (Receiving plans, cost transparency, which subcontractors are used, etc.)
What should you agree to and what absolutely not?
When should alarm bells ring, or what are signs that you should end a conversation and walk away? (For example, “sign first, you can cancel later free of charge” — *shaking head)
Most providers mention a price per square meter, e.g., €1,700 (about $1,900) with everything included, but I find that too general, even if it’s just an average.
I am very grateful for your advice.
Best regards,
Bubb
As a complete beginner, I need your help with a rough outline of the process for building a single-family house.
Until about three weeks ago, I hadn’t even considered building a house in my wildest dreams, until my wife, during a business trip one evening in her hotel room, was browsing “Immoscout” again.
This had happened quite often over the years, but until now, there had been a natural barrier in and around Munich that kept me from such adventures as buying real estate: THE PRICE LEVEL.
What was new this time was that my wife was looking for plots of land – and, strangely enough, a plot was offered just one town over from us, right in a quiet, pleasant residential area.
It was part of the garden area of an older single-family house. The land was split due to generational reasons and put up for sale.
Building permission (building permit / planning permission) was already granted, fully serviced, etc. Before I even realized what was happening, I found myself standing with my wife and the real estate agent on a meadow that somehow had the ability to pull my savings out of my pocket.
I never intended to go into debt for a house or limit myself for 30 years like my parents did.
My condition was that we could pay for the plot “in cash,” and when the seller learned that we didn’t need financing for the land, he reduced the price by almost €25,000, and just like that, I lost – the plot was bought a few days later.
The seller was interested in a very quick closing.
The current status: money gone (a little over €300,000), plot secured.
I have since become convinced that, in our case, ownership is better than renting, especially since our rent is almost €1,900 per month including utilities.
The very next day, I went to a house exhibition to gather information.
My first impressions were rather unpleasant. As soon as some salespeople found out that we already had a plot, the hard-selling tactics started: appointments, intensive talks, and I felt extremely pressured, which I made very clear to them.
Everyone claimed to be the best, everyone had the best product, everything was individual, and so on.
With other providers, I encountered a lot of arrogance because I was dressed in jeans and a polo shirt. Four days later, when I came straight from the office in a suit, they were suddenly very polite, offering drinks and snacks (same salespeople).
What is clear for us is that we need a general contractor (builder).
The house should be built with solid construction and a basement (about 160 sqm (1,722 sq ft) excluding basement area) and must be completed with as little personal contribution as possible since we lack experience in construction work.
For us, one option would be to have the basement and ground floor fully finished, with the upper floor left for later completion.
Now, our questions are: How should one proceed?
Should we secure financing first (about €350,000) and then look for a general contractor?
(Problem: banks require information about the house, which doesn’t even exist in planning yet, e.g., gross volume, sqm according to “DIN something” etc.)
Or should we plan the house first and then arrange financing?
We already have quite specific ideas regarding the house, floor plan, and room layout (pitched roof 35° - 38°, knee wall height 70 cm (28 inches), and building envelope legally fixed).
How should one approach general contractors? Do they already design a complete house without any contractual basis? (All plans, development plans, etc., are available.)
Are the salespeople specialists or just “salespeople”?
Does one take a single plan and present it to several general contractors, or does each one create their own plan/layout?
Will you receive the floor plans?
Can you take the construction specification documents before signing and compare them?
(Selection of materials before signing — I want to know in advance what we are buying.)
How many meetings are typical? How transparent are the cost breakdowns for individual items? (Basement, architectural services, plumbing, electrical, etc.)
What is usual and what is not? (Receiving plans, cost transparency, which subcontractors are used, etc.)
What should you agree to and what absolutely not?
When should alarm bells ring, or what are signs that you should end a conversation and walk away? (For example, “sign first, you can cancel later free of charge” — *shaking head)
Most providers mention a price per square meter, e.g., €1,700 (about $1,900) with everything included, but I find that too general, even if it’s just an average.
I am very grateful for your advice.
Best regards,
Bubb
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Bauexperte19 May 2011 10:53Hello,
Does your financer happen to be located in Krefeld? If so, I can assure you—without knowing your exact situation—that the people there are very experienced in real life and would not advise you anything that could be disadvantageous for you; they are also liable for any advisory mistakes. I myself have been working with this independent financial broker for 17 years, and none of the financings arranged so far, nor any later refinancing, has ever been to the detriment of the builder.
Kind regards
Perlenmann schrieb:
...I had an independent financial advisor
Does your financer happen to be located in Krefeld? If so, I can assure you—without knowing your exact situation—that the people there are very experienced in real life and would not advise you anything that could be disadvantageous for you; they are also liable for any advisory mistakes. I myself have been working with this independent financial broker for 17 years, and none of the financings arranged so far, nor any later refinancing, has ever been to the detriment of the builder.
Kind regards
@E.Curb hello, you mentioned creating a scope of work --> who can help me make the right choices? --> Who could provide professional assistance here?
I’m not an expert either, and we plan to start our own home project in February 2012.
So far, we only know that it will be a solid construction house (massive house) >> regarding the design and details, we want to consult with an architect or get advice from a builder specializing in solid construction houses.
Since I travel a lot, we would prefer a turnkey solution --> well, maybe except for the basement.
I’m not an expert either, and we plan to start our own home project in February 2012.
So far, we only know that it will be a solid construction house (massive house) >> regarding the design and details, we want to consult with an architect or get advice from a builder specializing in solid construction houses.
Since I travel a lot, we would prefer a turnkey solution --> well, maybe except for the basement.
E.Curb schrieb:
Hello,
This is how I would proceed:
- Check the total budget available for building a house
- Find an architect who can create a design according to my ideas, also considering the budget, building regulations / planning permission, and the site conditions
- Plan the finished design in detail and have bill of quantities prepared, which include detailed information about materials, execution methods, and quantities. These bills of quantities are then sent to the individual companies to obtain comparable offers
Best regardsHello E.Curb,
You are absolutely right about the bill of quantities. I work for an electrical company and professionally deal with obtaining quotes and making comparisons based on bills of quantities. Therefore, it was natural for me to approach construction companies with a bill of quantities. Next time, I will make sure to mention this point in my post as well.
Regards
dastef
Hello,
You can get professional assistance from an architect.
Regards
Stefanoi schrieb:
Who could provide professional help here?
You can get professional assistance from an architect.
Regards
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perlenmann27 May 2011 11:09@Bonnat: Could I please get an answer to my question? I would like some facts if you are going to make such a statement.
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