Hello,
I came across this forum some time ago. Back then, it was mainly about planning our narrow bathroom, which is now a thing of the past (a long story).
Now my husband and I are planning to buy a condominium. However, the apartment currently has only two rooms. Since the living room is huge at 40m² (430 sq ft), we would like to create a third room here.
I have already prepared two sketches for this:
First of all: simply putting up a wall from the entrance to the fireplace (there is a fireplace opening behind the column) is not an option, as the windows face south and we would lose too much natural light. The covered balcony with 25m² (270 sq ft) faces east.
Regarding option 1:
The room would be rectangular in shape. The sofa would be positioned as drawn freehand. However, the wall would not end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown but would stop earlier so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, the office wall would be visible. Concern with this option:
The distance between the sofa and the TV is very large.
Advantage: we keep a window area to the left of the office, where our dining table will fit.
Option 2:
This layout is a bit unusual but has the advantage that the TV is closer to the sofa. In the narrow section of the office, shelves could be placed.
Attached is also a picture of the floor plan.
In the bedroom, a drywall partition will be erected to create a walk-in closet or, later, to relocate the office there.
I am grateful for any suggestions or ideas.
I came across this forum some time ago. Back then, it was mainly about planning our narrow bathroom, which is now a thing of the past (a long story).
Now my husband and I are planning to buy a condominium. However, the apartment currently has only two rooms. Since the living room is huge at 40m² (430 sq ft), we would like to create a third room here.
I have already prepared two sketches for this:
First of all: simply putting up a wall from the entrance to the fireplace (there is a fireplace opening behind the column) is not an option, as the windows face south and we would lose too much natural light. The covered balcony with 25m² (270 sq ft) faces east.
Regarding option 1:
The room would be rectangular in shape. The sofa would be positioned as drawn freehand. However, the wall would not end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown but would stop earlier so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, the office wall would be visible. Concern with this option:
The distance between the sofa and the TV is very large.
Advantage: we keep a window area to the left of the office, where our dining table will fit.
Option 2:
This layout is a bit unusual but has the advantage that the TV is closer to the sofa. In the narrow section of the office, shelves could be placed.
Attached is also a picture of the floor plan.
In the bedroom, a drywall partition will be erected to create a walk-in closet or, later, to relocate the office there.
I am grateful for any suggestions or ideas.
I think it’s a pity to lose the nice room. What do you need the room for? A home office? Perhaps a clever arrangement of furniture could provide enough separation?
If I had to choose, I would lean towards option 2. But most likely, I would make a more radical change and build a wall across the room to create a rectangular living room again. You could add a strip window or something similar in the partition to bring light from the office into the new living room.
If I had to choose, I would lean towards option 2. But most likely, I would make a more radical change and build a wall across the room to create a rectangular living room again. You could add a strip window or something similar in the partition to bring light from the office into the new living room.
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Badneuling2628 Dec 2017 20:06Thank you for your suggestions @kaho674
Dividing the space through clever furnishing is not an option. That is exactly what we have at the moment, and we no longer want that. We need a fully enclosed room.
Good luck
Dividing the space through clever furnishing is not an option. That is exactly what we have at the moment, and we no longer want that. We need a fully enclosed room.
Good luck
Badneuling26 schrieb:
However, the wall wouldn’t end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown, but earlier, so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, you can see the office wall. So, about the width of the hallway shorter, so that the wall between the office and the sofa fits next to the chimney?
I find option 2 much less appealing. In any case, I am thinking of drywall construction, which is also easier to modify later. What will be done in the office, and what about power outlets, lighting, etc.? Where exactly would these need to be placed? In my opinion, preferably within the solid walls already planned.
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Badneuling2628 Dec 2017 20:45@11ant
So, about the width of the hallway shorter, so that the wall between the office and the sofa fits against the chimney?
Not exactly. I was thinking that the walls would end roughly halfway along the hallway area, do you see what I mean?
In the office, as shown in the second version, two desks should be accommodated, as well as two shelves.
Regarding the lighting, there’s no big issue. There is a ceiling outlet located roughly in the center of each corner of the living room.
So, about the width of the hallway shorter, so that the wall between the office and the sofa fits against the chimney?
Not exactly. I was thinking that the walls would end roughly halfway along the hallway area, do you see what I mean?
In the office, as shown in the second version, two desks should be accommodated, as well as two shelves.
Regarding the lighting, there’s no big issue. There is a ceiling outlet located roughly in the center of each corner of the living room.
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Badneuling2628 Dec 2017 21:19PS:
We also considered making the third room square-shaped in the first window area on the right, where the table is shown in the first version.
However, the room would only be 8sqm (86 sq ft).
My husband is somewhat concerned that this might be too small for a future child's bedroom.
Although we will only be staying in the apartment until the house is ready ;-)
Is 8sqm (86 sq ft) really too small for a 3 or 4-year-old child?
We also considered making the third room square-shaped in the first window area on the right, where the table is shown in the first version.
However, the room would only be 8sqm (86 sq ft).
My husband is somewhat concerned that this might be too small for a future child's bedroom.
Although we will only be staying in the apartment until the house is ready ;-)
Is 8sqm (86 sq ft) really too small for a 3 or 4-year-old child?
8sqm (86 sq ft) for a toddler is certainly sufficient if it is only used for sleeping and storing toys, especially if play takes place in your living room.
Otherwise – 2sqm (22 sq ft) for the bed leaves 6sqm (65 sq ft). A wardrobe or chest of drawers leaves 5sqm (54 sq ft). If the child also has some LEGO constructions that might stay in the room, you quickly end up not being able to access the bed.
Or if the child already sleeps with you and no bed is needed in the room, then this arrangement could work for a while.
Otherwise – 2sqm (22 sq ft) for the bed leaves 6sqm (65 sq ft). A wardrobe or chest of drawers leaves 5sqm (54 sq ft). If the child also has some LEGO constructions that might stay in the room, you quickly end up not being able to access the bed.
Or if the child already sleeps with you and no bed is needed in the room, then this arrangement could work for a while.
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