Hello everyone,
We are currently in the middle of planning a new build (just before submitting the building permit / planning permission) and are considering the living room lighting, among other things. We are not really fans of recessed spotlights, and the general contractor putting expensive placeholders into the concrete ceiling discouraged us a bit.
Therefore, we tend to prefer simple round, preferably flat ceiling lights with diffuse light, plus a few wall lights for accentuation. We want to avoid floor lamps and similar as much as possible.
The sketch of our living room is shown in the picture below:

L1, L2, and L3 – round ceiling lights
PL – pendant light above the dining table
WL1 and WL2 – wall lights
This is my personally preferred arrangement at the moment. My wife thinks that two more wall lights might make sense (these would be WL3 and WL4), although in my opinion they would mostly be for accentuation and not really practical.
Plus, we are unsure if the three ceiling lights set diagonally (assuming sufficient brightness – I am planning with 3 x approx. 2000 lumens, dimmable, for about 30 m² (320 ft²) of living space) are enough to illuminate the living room well and, above all, evenly, especially the two empty corners.
One of the corners could have a fourth light – the dining area is of course covered by the pendant light as the fifth fixture.
On top of that, I even worry that with the three ceiling lights plus the pendant light, the room might feel overcrowded—not to mention if we added four or five. Would I perhaps be better off with a classic, large, strong light in the middle instead?
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So much about our thoughts – what do you think? What would you recommend based on your experience or expertise? Is the whole plan maybe a bad idea? Can you suggest a brilliant alternative?
I look forward to your comments and thank you in advance!
We are currently in the middle of planning a new build (just before submitting the building permit / planning permission) and are considering the living room lighting, among other things. We are not really fans of recessed spotlights, and the general contractor putting expensive placeholders into the concrete ceiling discouraged us a bit.
Therefore, we tend to prefer simple round, preferably flat ceiling lights with diffuse light, plus a few wall lights for accentuation. We want to avoid floor lamps and similar as much as possible.
The sketch of our living room is shown in the picture below:
L1, L2, and L3 – round ceiling lights
PL – pendant light above the dining table
WL1 and WL2 – wall lights
This is my personally preferred arrangement at the moment. My wife thinks that two more wall lights might make sense (these would be WL3 and WL4), although in my opinion they would mostly be for accentuation and not really practical.
Plus, we are unsure if the three ceiling lights set diagonally (assuming sufficient brightness – I am planning with 3 x approx. 2000 lumens, dimmable, for about 30 m² (320 ft²) of living space) are enough to illuminate the living room well and, above all, evenly, especially the two empty corners.
One of the corners could have a fourth light – the dining area is of course covered by the pendant light as the fifth fixture.
On top of that, I even worry that with the three ceiling lights plus the pendant light, the room might feel overcrowded—not to mention if we added four or five. Would I perhaps be better off with a classic, large, strong light in the middle instead?
********************************************************************************************
So much about our thoughts – what do you think? What would you recommend based on your experience or expertise? Is the whole plan maybe a bad idea? Can you suggest a brilliant alternative?
I look forward to your comments and thank you in advance!
I think this is quite good. I would like to control PL and L3 individually. Also the wall lamps, but those should be linked together in the dining area (WL 1 and 3 combined).
You could install a picture light for WL 2. I find WL 4 unnecessary, as it is rather above the TV or to the left of it (from the plan view) – either for watching TV or for the dining area.
Maybe provide a box for L2 as well, although it might also be unnecessary.
You could install a picture light for WL 2. I find WL 4 unnecessary, as it is rather above the TV or to the left of it (from the plan view) – either for watching TV or for the dining area.
Maybe provide a box for L2 as well, although it might also be unnecessary.
3x 2000 lumens for 30 m² (320 ft²) could also be sufficient for an operating room.
Lighting is a matter of personal taste. I find ceiling lights unattractive, except when placed above the dining area.
Especially in the living room, where a cozy atmosphere is desired, I prefer indirect lighting using floor lamps, small lamps on shelves, or similar options.
Switchable outlets are always useful, as they add flexibility.
In my opinion, what you are planning is a complete lighting overkill; for example, the lamp in front of the couch will hardly ever be turned on.
Is that supposed to be a bar area left of L1? If so, the ceiling light behind it wouldn’t fit either.
Lighting is a matter of personal taste. I find ceiling lights unattractive, except when placed above the dining area.
Especially in the living room, where a cozy atmosphere is desired, I prefer indirect lighting using floor lamps, small lamps on shelves, or similar options.
Switchable outlets are always useful, as they add flexibility.
In my opinion, what you are planning is a complete lighting overkill; for example, the lamp in front of the couch will hardly ever be turned on.
Is that supposed to be a bar area left of L1? If so, the ceiling light behind it wouldn’t fit either.
apokolok schrieb:
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In my opinion, what you’re planning is a total lighting overkill; for example, the lamp in front of the couch will never be turned on.
...Actually, it’s useful when looking for something between the cushions or cleaning. But I agree with you: ceiling lights are only necessary for that purpose or in exceptional cases... everything else should be done with subtler lighting, like wall lamps. 😉
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Bieber081519 Dec 2017 13:31Nuriel schrieb:
The following image shows the sketch of our living room: IMHO, it looks overcrowded with too many light fixtures. Besides that, I find the furnishing somewhat ... unusual. I can’t imagine it will stay like this permanently. But of course, I’m only seeing a part of it and don’t know you ;-).
Bieber0815 schrieb:
By the way, I find the furniture arrangement a bit... odd. I agree.. the space behind the sofa feels like an extra hallway, and somehow the room doesn’t really feel spacious. Out of approximately 30 square meters (320 square feet) total, around 6 square meters (65 square feet) are used purely as circulation space, which does not increase distances between furniture or anything like that.
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